texascavers Digest 10 May 2010 20:20:39 -0000 Issue 1048

Mon, 10 May 2010 13:20:45 -0700 (PDT) 

texascavers Digest 10 May 2010 20:20:39 -0000 Issue 1048

Topics (messages 14686 through 14698):

commercial caves in the news
        14686 by: David

Oil Leak in the Gulf
        14687 by: Gill Edigar

new from AMCS
        14688 by: Mixon Bill

cave ballad related ?
        14689 by: David

forward -- cave hunting in OK
        14690 by: htjohn1.juno.com
        14695 by: Jesse Walker

grotto dues question
        14691 by: David
        14694 by: Mark Minton

PBSS meeting announcement
        14692 by: J. LaRue Thomas

Re: TSA Members Area Odometer at 99
        14693 by: Mark.Alman.l-3com.com

Re: USFWS issues $2 million RFP for WNS Research
        14696 by: Mark Minton

NSS membership perks
        14697 by: David

"Huautla, the Mexican Cave" A Film By Jay Arnold
        14698 by: Michael Pugliese

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http://www.fresnobee.com/2010/05/07/1925316/sequoias-crystal-cave-adds-sun.html

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Here's some interesting information about the events of the past few weeks..

    http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6444#more

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The Association for Mexican Cave Studies announces two new items in its catalog:
AMCS Reprint 11, "Mexican Field Trip Guidebooks from the 15th ICS," $10. The guides to the three pre- and post-International Congress trips that were to Mexico, consolidated into one volume. Thanks to the authors and the NSS for permission to reprint this material. See http://www.amcs-pubs.org/rpt/repr11.html for details.
Video DVD-R, "Huautla, the Mexican Cave," 35-minute film by Jay Arnold released originally in 1995, $5. This has been converted from 16-mm film. Thanks to Bill Steele for arranging permission for the AMCS to sell this and to Mike Pugliese for some improvement in the conversion and for duplicating the disks. Some oldest DVD players may not be able to read a DVD-R, but most can. See http://www.amcs-pubs.org/other/HuautlaDVD.html .
Information about ordering and postage charges is at http://www.amcs-pubs.org/finance/order.html .
REMINDER--Please get material for the coming AMCS Activities Newsletter 33 to the editor ([email protected]) by May 15. 

--Bill Mixon, AMCS sales
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The link below has some songs by the

Austrian pop star, "Crazy Bitch in a Cave."

      http://www.myspace.com/crazybitchinacave

Here are 3 photos of her ?

     http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p156/ichbinpapier/CBC_poster_klein.jpg

     
http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/119/l_a45d3bd552374f5681fb1e2508e27e56.jpg

     
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs492.ash1/26909_361243814106_77862884106_3584060_2365784_n.jpg

( Disclaimer:   I only listened to 5 seconds of the 1st song on the list )

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I received the following email from Mr. Frederick (don't know him) but with his 
permission am reposting to see if any who live closer to Oklahoma want to 
pursue:

"My name is Chris Frederick and I'm a High School teacher in Lone Grove, 
Oklahoma which is right off of I-35 about 
30 miles north of the OK/Texas border. For the last five years I've been 
gathering info on a rumored cave in a 
neighboring town that could be very significant. I first heard about this cave 
from an eldery couple that I used 
to attend church with. One Sunday we started talking about caves and they said 
"Oh...my son's got a cave behind 
his house". Well, I've been in a lot of caves and I know that here in Oklahoma 
we don't have any significant 
caves, so I wasn't too excited because I figured it was just a hole in a rock. 
I asked them to tell me about it 
and they said that they've known about it for years because it's on a creek 
behind what used to be their house and 
is now their son's, and was a popular swimming hole for them when they were 
kids. According to them it's a few 
miles down this creek and has a single entrance that is about 4'x5', and the 
only person that's ever ventured into 
the cave was an old Native American who is now dead. This man crawled into the 
entrance and went about 30 feet 
and the cave opened up into a vast room in which the beam of his standard 
flashlight couldn't reach the opposite 
wall. When I heard that the hairs on my neck stood up. They also said that 
there's a large bluff up above the 
entrance and if you stand on the top and drop large rocks it sounds like 
thunder because of the chamber 
underneath. I've also learned that this land was originally a large ranch and 
I've spoken to the retired foreman 
of that ranch. He said that he didn't know where the entrance is, but that 
there are vast areas of land that 
sound hollow when riding horses. It was his opinion that there's a massive cave 
waiting to be found on this 
land. My son and I have been looking for the entrance off and on for the last 
five years, but the area is super 
rugged and it's like looking for a needle in a hay stack. The eldery couple 
from my church and their son know 
where the cave entrance is but their in bad health and can't make the trek down 
the creek. I need any advice you 
can give me on what I might look for. I know alot about caves but I'm no 
expert. This is not a Texas deal but I 
could really use any help you can give me. You can call me if you wish at 
580-222-9427.

[email protected]"

John Moses, El Paso

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I live in Dallas and would be willing to spend a weekend walking a creek,
I'm sure others would as well (Sean R.?).  It would at least be fun camping.

Jesse

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:06 PM, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote:

> I received the following email from Mr. Frederick (don't know him) but with
> his permission am reposting to see if any who live closer to Oklahoma want
> to pursue:
>
> "My name is Chris Frederick and I'm a High School teacher in Lone Grove,
> Oklahoma which is right off of I-35 about
> 30 miles north of the OK/Texas border. For the last five years I've been
> gathering info on a rumored cave in a
> neighboring town that could be very significant. I first heard about this
> cave from an eldery couple that I used
> to attend church with. One Sunday we started talking about caves and they
> said "Oh...my son's got a cave behind
> his house". Well, I've been in a lot of caves and I know that here in
> Oklahoma we don't have any significant
> caves, so I wasn't too excited because I figured it was just a hole in a
> rock. I asked them to tell me about it
> and they said that they've known about it for years because it's on a creek
> behind what used to be their house and
> is now their son's, and was a popular swimming hole for them when they were
> kids. According to them it's a few
> miles down this creek and has a single entrance that is about 4'x5', and
> the only person that's ever ventured into
> the cave was an old Native American who is now dead. This man crawled into
> the entrance and went about 30 feet
> and the cave opened up into a vast room in which the beam of his standard
> flashlight couldn't reach the opposite
> wall. When I heard that the hairs on my neck stood up. They also said that
> there's a large bluff up above the
> entrance and if you stand on the top and drop large rocks it sounds like
> thunder because of the chamber
> underneath. I've also learned that this land was originally a large ranch
> and I've spoken to the retired foreman
> of that ranch. He said that he didn't know where the entrance is, but that
> there are vast areas of land that
> sound hollow when riding horses. It was his opinion that there's a massive
> cave waiting to be found on this
> land. My son and I have been looking for the entrance off and on for the
> last five years, but the area is super
> rugged and it's like looking for a needle in a hay stack. The eldery couple
> from my church and their son know
> where the cave entrance is but their in bad health and can't make the trek
> down the creek. I need any advice you
> can give me on what I might look for. I know alot about caves but I'm no
> expert. This is not a Texas deal but I
> could really use any help you can give me. You can call me if you wish at
> 580-222-9427.
>
> [email protected]"
>
> John Moses, El Paso
>
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I am curious what various grotto dues are these days.

I saw one of the college caving clubs had dues of $ 20 a semester.

High grotto dues discourage people from joining, especially when
they are already members of other cave related organizations.

Also, it would be interesting to see what perks are offered to
members as a cost-value comparison.

A year membership to the NSS with few perks is only $ 24.
( Perk # 1 is you get a discount registration at NSS Convention and
# 2, is you can get into a few commercial caves cheaper. )

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David Locklear said:
>A year membership to the NSS with few perks is only $ 24. ( Perk # 1 is you get a discount registration at NSS Convention and # 2, is you can get into a few commercial caves cheaper. )
The most obvious perk of NSS membership is a subscription to the NSS News, which has been a pretty fine publication under Dave Bunnell's editorship. 

Mark Minton

Please reply to [email protected]
Permanent email address is [email protected]
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The May meeting of the Permian Basin Speleological Society is upon us!
It is this Tuesday--tomorrow!--May 11th, 7:00 pm in the back room of Murray's Delicatessen which is located at 3211 West Wadley in Midland.
We have trips to discuss and finalize, a dig report, and probably vertical training/practice to arrange.
If you are thinking of attending the Abyss trip DO NOT forget to be there to sign the release. If you cannot attend please download a copy, sign it and send it to Jacqui Thomas by May 14th. Releases must be received by the landowner before the trip.
For further information contact an officer: Jacqui Thomas [email protected] or Bill Bentley [email protected] 

Regarding The Hole News (especially trip reports): Kel Thomas
[email protected]

PBSS web page:
http://www.caver.net/pbss/pbss.html

The Permian Basin Speleological Society was founded in October 1983 and was
chartered as the 300th grotto of the National Speleological Society on
January 18, 1984. The Permian Basin Speleological Society is an affiliated
Grotto or Caving club with the Texas Speleological Association and the
Southwestern Region of the National Speleological Society and supports the
cave conservation ethics of the National Speleological Society.

National Speleological Society web page:
http://www.caves.org/

Texas Speleological Association web page:
http://www.cavetexas.org

Southwestern Region of the NSS web page:
http://www.caves.org/region/swr/

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You're a good man, Edward!

 

 

The rest of you can go to www.caves.org to do likewise!

 

 

 

Mark

 

 

From: Edward J Gelsone [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2010 1:16 PM
To: Alman, Mark @ EOS; [email protected];
[email protected]
Cc: 'Darla'
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TSA Members Area Odometer at 99

 

I even re-upped my NSS membership.  I must be losing my mind......

 

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, May 07, 2010 8:06 AM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Cc: Darla
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TSA Members Area Odometer at 99

 

 

Congratulations to....

 

 

<drumroll, please>

 

 

Edward Gelsone

 

For being our 100th official caver to have joined the exclusive TSA
Members Only Area!

 

Thanks for signing up, Edward, and please bring this email to TCR for a
FREE cup of Shiner and a bowl of Gary Napper's World Famous Menudo!

 

Salute!

 

Mark

 

 

 

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thu 5/6/2010 12:10 PM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Cc: Darla; Mark Alman
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TSA Members Area Odometer at 99

 

 

Our list of registered members to the online TSA Members Area is still
stuck at 99, unless we've had some folks join recently.

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        Forwarded message about WNS research funding.

Mark Minton


Date: Fri, 7 May 2010 19:35:43 -0400
Subject: USFWS issues $2 million RFP for WNS Research

From: Cheryl Jones [email protected]
The US Fish and Wildlife Service just announced that it will award up to $2 million in grants for high-priority research projects on WNS. The intent is to fund research within three broad topics: timing and dynamics of the fungus associated with WNS; persistence of the fungus on bats or in the environment; and susceptibility of bat species, including migrating and European bats, to the fungus.
Requests for proposals will be accepted until June 4 with grants awarded in the autumn.
Funding requests must be between $50,000 and $750,000, and projects must be completed by Sept. 30, 2012.
$1 million of the available funding comes from a special congressional appropriation for WNS work. Up to $1 million more comes from a Service fund called Preventing Extinction.
For further information see http://www.grants.gov, "Find Grant Opportunities" and search by Keyword: white-nose or FON: FWS-R5-ES-10-049 or CFDA: 15.657. 

Please reply to [email protected]
Permanent email address is [email protected]
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I was referring to their "basic" membership, which does not include
the newsletter.

You have to pay an additional $ 16 per year if you want to be a "Regular" member
and receive the fine publication that Mark mentioned.

For more info on the dues of the NSS, scroll down to the bottom of the following
link:

     http://www.caves.org/info/membertypes.shtml

Note there are discounts for students, and people willing to pay for a
3 year membership.

And you can become a Life member after 10 years,
by being a "Sustaining" member.

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Now viewable from the link below! The 16-mm film was originally released
in 1995. The exploration of Sistema Huautla and Cueva de la Pe�a
Colorada, near the Huautla resurgence, up to about 1988. Narrated by
Bill Steele. Bill Steele has graciously allowed me to release this short documentary courtesy of the Association for Mexican Cave Studies. The film is available to purchase on DVD at amcs-pubs.org <http://www.amcs-pubs.org> I've regraded the transfer and removed grain, made general color correction, and applied sharpening, among fixing other small flaws with the video. 

http://vimeo.com/11628019

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