Hey! This is a discussion forum. Nobody's opinion deserves to be called "naive" 
or "whining." So...be nice, Ray. Let's see if New Mexico's cavers can maintain 
a civil dialog about a controversial topic. Tossing around insults is the 
fastest way to squelch what could be a productive exchange.

I gave my thoughts on the subject, but am not an expert, and am certainly not 
qualified to slam anybody else's opinion. I look forward to hearing from 
biologists and others with enough initials behind their names to know what 
they're talking about. 

Lois
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