texascavers Digest 20 Oct 2009 11:15:12 -0000 Issue 873
Topics (messages 12362 through 12385):
Re: How was TCR?
12362 by: Terri Sprouse
Priest's Grotto Story (Chris Nicola) - Oct. 24, 2009 (Saturday)
12363 by: Lyndon Tiu
12364 by: Louise Hose
Texas Cavers Reunion
12365 by: Allan B. Cobb
12366 by: Sheryl Rieck
12372 by: Ron Miller
12374 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net
12375 by: germanyj.aol.com
TCR 2009
12367 by: Allan B. Cobb
12368 by: Mark.Alman.l-3com.com
12371 by: Butch Fralia
12382 by: Allan B. Cobb
12383 by: David Ochel
12385 by: tbsamsel.verizon.net
Vote
12369 by: Ron Ralph
Birthday party for Monica
12370 by: Gill Edigar
Volunteers needed
12373 by: Ron Ralph
The Mexican
12376 by: Andy Gluesenkamp
PEP Thanksgiving Trip
12377 by: Gill Edigar
TCR Lost and Found
12378 by: Allan B. Cobb
Congratulations to caver Jim McLane
12379 by: David
Bat story
12380 by: Aimee Beveridge
A few Ed Alexander photos
12381 by: Frank Binney
Mars related
12384 by: David
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Not a problem, Julia. Sorry you could not make it, but the cooks had plenty of
help.
There is some sad news coming from TCR. . . coming soon, I guess.
Terri
--- On Sun, 10/18/09, germa...@aol.com <germa...@aol.com> wrote:
> From: germa...@aol.com <germa...@aol.com>
> Subject: [Texascavers] How was TCR?
> To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
> Date: Sunday, October 18, 2009, 11:41 AM
> Howdy All!
>
>
>
> I am SO bummed I missed TCR this weekend. I got the flu
> last week and was in a world of hurt. Today is the first day
> of solid foods. I know I missed a rocking good time
> and can't wait to read about it here and see the fotos
> in the Texas Caver.
>
>
>
> My sincerest apologies to the cooks for not being there as
> promised. I hope other pitched in.
>
>
>
> julia
>
>
>
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Fellow Cavers,
You are invited to come and attend the presentation by Chris Nicola
about the Priest Grotto story. Chris� research on this cave�s history
has been featured by National Geographic:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/05/0527_040527_grottosurvivors.html
and
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/0406/excerpt4.html
Where: Paul Dye and Louise Hose�s home at 2300 Butler Drive,
Friendswood, Texas 77546
Map:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=2300+Butler+Drive,+Friendswood,+Texas+77546&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=2300+Butler+Dr,+Friendswood,+TX+77546&gl=us&ei=sXPbSrTJN4viNZaI6eIH&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CA0Q8gEwAA
Directions: Take Nasa Rd. 1/FM528 west off of I-45 for 3.5 miles, across
Clear Creek, take a left at the next light (Winding Way), and go down
the left side of the runway.
When: 6:00 pm, October 24, 2009 (Saturday)
Please, try and arrive NO EARLIER than 6PM as the place is being used
for a different function before that time. Thank you for your cooperation.
What to bring: Dinner is pot luck so please bring some food and drinks
to share.
I'm excited. See you there.
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Lyndon Tiu
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Folks, Barb MacLeod will also be performing a half-hour set of caving
ballads at about 6 pm. Chris' show will start about 7 pm. The action will be
in our airplane hanger in the back yard. My phone number is 713-816-5259.
(Some folks are planning on camping in the backyard that evening, so bring
your camping gear if you like.)
Louise Hose
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From: Lyndon Tiu [mailto:l...@alumni.sfu.ca]
Sent: Sunday, October 18, 2009 3:10 PM
To: greater_houston_gro...@yahoogroups.com; Cavers Texas
Cc: h...@drkarst.net; paul.f....@nasa.gov; jjor...@texoma.net
Subject: Priest's Grotto Story (Chris Nicola) - Oct. 24, 2009 (Saturday)
Fellow Cavers,
You are invited to come and attend the presentation by Chris Nicola
about the Priest Grotto story. Chris' research on this cave's history
has been featured by National Geographic:
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/05/0527_040527_grottosurvivors.
html
and
http://www.nationalgeographic.com/adventure/0406/excerpt4.html
Where: Paul Dye and Louise Hose's home at 2300 Butler Drive,
Friendswood, Texas 77546
Map:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=2300+Butler+Drive,+Friendswood,+Texas+77546&oe
=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hne
ar=2300+Butler+Dr,+Friendswood,+TX+77546&gl=us&ei=sXPbSrTJN4viNZaI6eIH&sa=X&
oi=geocode_result&ct=image&resnum=1&ved=0CA0Q8gEwAA
Directions: Take Nasa Rd. 1/FM528 west off of I-45 for 3.5 miles, across
Clear Creek, take a left at the next light (Winding Way), and go down
the left side of the runway.
When: 6:00 pm, October 24, 2009 (Saturday)
Please, try and arrive NO EARLIER than 6PM as the place is being used
for a different function before that time. Thank you for your cooperation.
What to bring: Dinner is pot luck so please bring some food and drinks
to share.
I'm excited. See you there.
--
Lyndon Tiu
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As has already been mentioned, there is bad news from TCR.
Early on Saturday morning, Ed Alexander was found unconscious in the water
near the hot tub. He was pulled from the water and cavers started CPR. 911
was called. Approximately 30 minutes later, Ed was transported by ambulance
to a hospital in San Antonio. Later in the day on Saturday, Ed passed away.
I wish to express my deepest condolances to the family. Please remember Ed
and keep his family in your thoughts and prayers.
Allan Cobb
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I would like to offer my condolences to Ed's family as well. You
will be remembered in my prayers.
Sheryl Rieck, GHG
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Ed Alexander photo from James Jasek.
http://ron.mllr.googlepages.com/Alexander.html
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From: Allan B. Cobb <a...@oztotl.com>
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Sun, October 18, 2009 6:35:51 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion
As has already been mentioned, there is bad news from TCR.
Early on Saturday morning, Ed Alexander was found unconscious in the water near
the hot tub. He was pulled from the water and cavers started CPR. 911 was
called. Approximately 30 minutes later, Ed was transported by ambulance to a
hospital in San Antonio. Later in the day on Saturday, Ed passed away.
I wish to express my deepest condolances to the family. Please remember Ed and
keep his family in your thoughts and prayers.
Allan Cobb
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When was that? there's little grey in his bread..
From: Allan B. Cobb <a...@oztotl.com>
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Sun, October 18, 2009 6:35:51 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion
As has already been mentioned, there is bad news from TCR.
Early on Saturday morning, Ed Alexander was found unconscious in the water near the hot tub. He was pulled from the water and cavers started CPR. 911 was called. Approximately 30 minutes later, Ed was transported by ambulance to a hospital in San Antonio. Later in the day on Saturday, Ed passed away.
I wish to express my deepest condolances to the family. Please remember Ed and keep his family in your thoughts and prayers.
Allan Cobb
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According to the foto, lower right corner, 1983
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From: tbsam...@verizon.net
To: rons...@yahoo.com
Cc: a...@oztotl.com; Texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Mon, Oct 19, 2009 3:57 pm
Subject: Re: Re: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion
When was that? there's little grey in his bread..
Ted
Oct 19, 2009 10:53:54 AM, rons...@yahoo.com wrote:
Ed Alexander photo from James Jasek.
http://ron.mllr.googlepages.com/Alexander.html
From: Allan B. Cobb <a...@oztotl.com>
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Sun, October 18, 2009 6:35:51 PM
Subject: [Texascavers] Texas Cavers Reunion
As has already been mentioned, there is bad news from TCR.
Early on Saturday morning, Ed Alexander was found unconscious in the water near
the hot tub. He was pulled from the water and cavers started CPR. 911 was
called. Approximately 30 minutes later, Ed was transported by ambulance to a
hospital in San Antonio. Later in the day on Saturday, Ed passed away.
I wish to express my deepest condolances to the family. Please remember Ed and
keep his family in your thoughts and prayers.
Allan Cobb
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I wish to thank all those who attended TCR. I like to see the friendship
and comaradary that cavers show. TCR is an opportunity for old friend to
get together and a time to make new friends. Without those who attend TCR,
there would not be a TCR.
I also wish to thank all the people who work and help make TCR happen. I
want thank Pete for the hot tub and sauna. I want to thank Linda, Joe, Don,
Ellie, and Ann for acting as my assistants on various tasks. I wish to
thank Stefan and all the cooks for their hard work slaving over the hot
fires. Thanks to all those who ran and participated in the contests. And
finally thanks to all those who helped when called upon. If I missed
anyone, please accept my thanks. It is all of you who make TCR what it is.
Sorry for making this sound like an Academy Award acceptance speech!
I hope to see y'all again next year!
Allan
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Great job on TCR, Allan, and to all who helped out.
The spread supplied by Stefan and his CCC (Caver Cooking Crew) was very good!
The Aggies, especially, provided a lot of entertainment, activities, and a
rather unique Speleolympics.
Be sure to send any pictures, photos (incriminating and otherwise), articles
and observations for publication in The TEXAS CAVER to:
texascav...@yahoo.com or texascav...@gmail.com
Thanks!
Mark
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From: Allan B. Cobb [mailto:a...@oztotl.com]
Sent: Mon 10/19/2009 8:11 AM
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] TCR 2009
I wish to thank all those who attended TCR. I like to see the friendship
and comaradary that cavers show. TCR is an opportunity for old friend to
get together and a time to make new friends. Without those who attend TCR,
there would not be a TCR.
I also wish to thank all the people who work and help make TCR happen. I
want thank Pete for the hot tub and sauna. I want to thank Linda, Joe, Don,
Ellie, and Ann for acting as my assistants on various tasks. I wish to
thank Stefan and all the cooks for their hard work slaving over the hot
fires. Thanks to all those who ran and participated in the contests. And
finally thanks to all those who helped when called upon. If I missed
anyone, please accept my thanks. It is all of you who make TCR what it is.
Sorry for making this sound like an Academy Award acceptance speech!
I hope to see y'all again next year!
Allan
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I'd like to get photos of TCR on the TSA website as well. If you have a lot
of photos, you can e-mail me to make arrangements at:
webmas...@cavetexas.org.
Regards,
Butch Fralia
From: mark.al...@l-3com.com [mailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com]
Sent: Monday, October 19, 2009 8:29 AM
To: Allan B. Cobb; Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] TCR 2009
Great job on TCR, Allan, and to all who helped out.
The spread supplied by Stefan and his CCC (Caver Cooking Crew) was very
good!
The Aggies, especially, provided a lot of entertainment, activities, and a
rather unique Speleolympics.
Be sure to send any pictures, photos (incriminating and otherwise), articles
and observations for publication in The TEXAS CAVER to:
texascav...@yahoo.com or texascav...@gmail.com
Thanks!
Mark
_____
From: Allan B. Cobb [mailto:a...@oztotl.com]
Sent: Mon 10/19/2009 8:11 AM
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] TCR 2009
I wish to thank all those who attended TCR. I like to see the friendship
and comaradary that cavers show. TCR is an opportunity for old friend to
get together and a time to make new friends. Without those who attend TCR,
there would not be a TCR.
I also wish to thank all the people who work and help make TCR happen. I
want thank Pete for the hot tub and sauna. I want to thank Linda, Joe, Don,
Ellie, and Ann for acting as my assistants on various tasks. I wish to
thank Stefan and all the cooks for their hard work slaving over the hot
fires. Thanks to all those who ran and participated in the contests. And
finally thanks to all those who helped when called upon. If I missed
anyone, please accept my thanks. It is all of you who make TCR what it is.
Sorry for making this sound like an Academy Award acceptance speech!
I hope to see y'all again next year!
Allan
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Hi there,
My photos can be found here:
http://pics.ochel.net/Parties/2009-10-TCR/10014546_M8P4o
Thanks to everybody for the good times!
Cheers,
David
mark.al...@l-3com.com said the following on 10/19/2009 8:29 AM:
Great job on TCR, Allan, and to all who helped out.
The spread supplied by Stefan and his CCC (Caver Cooking Crew) was very
good!
The Aggies, especially, provided a lot of entertainment, activities, and
a rather unique Speleolympics.
Be sure to send any pictures, photos (incriminating and otherwise),
articles and observations for publication in /The TEXAS CAVER /to:
texascav...@yahoo.com <mailto:texascav...@yahoo.com> or
texascav...@gmail.com <mailto:texascav...@gmail.com>
Thanks!
Mark
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*From:* Allan B. Cobb [mailto:a...@oztotl.com]
*Sent:* Mon 10/19/2009 8:11 AM
*To:* Texascavers@texascavers.com
*Subject:* [Texascavers] TCR 2009
I wish to thank all those who attended TCR. I like to see the friendship
and comaradary that cavers show. TCR is an opportunity for old friend to
get together and a time to make new friends. Without those who attend TCR,
there would not be a TCR.
I also wish to thank all the people who work and help make TCR happen. I
want thank Pete for the hot tub and sauna. I want to thank Linda, Joe, Don,
Ellie, and Ann for acting as my assistants on various tasks. I wish to
thank Stefan and all the cooks for their hard work slaving over the hot
fires. Thanks to all those who ran and participated in the contests. And
finally thanks to all those who helped when called upon. If I missed
anyone, please accept my thanks. It is all of you who make TCR what it is.
Sorry for making this sound like an Academy Award acceptance speech!
I hope to see y'all again next year!
Allan
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Whoops... apparently my email client thinks I'm Allan... sorry about
that (that much about default settings for virtual Id in Thunderbird)...
-David
Allan B. Cobb said the following on 10/19/2009 10:56 PM:
Hi there,
My photos can be found here:
http://pics.ochel.net/Parties/2009-10-TCR/10014546_M8P4o
Thanks to everybody for the good times!
Cheers,
David
mark.al...@l-3com.com said the following on 10/19/2009 8:29 AM:
Great job on TCR, Allan, and to all who helped out.
The spread supplied by Stefan and his CCC (Caver Cooking Crew) was
very good!
The Aggies, especially, provided a lot of entertainment, activities,
and a rather unique Speleolympics.
Be sure to send any pictures, photos (incriminating and otherwise),
articles and observations for publication in /The TEXAS CAVER /to:
texascav...@yahoo.com <mailto:texascav...@yahoo.com> or
texascav...@gmail.com <mailto:texascav...@gmail.com>
Thanks!
Mark
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*From:* Allan B. Cobb [mailto:a...@oztotl.com]
*Sent:* Mon 10/19/2009 8:11 AM
*To:* Texascavers@texascavers.com
*Subject:* [Texascavers] TCR 2009
I wish to thank all those who attended TCR. I like to see the friendship
and comaradary that cavers show. TCR is an opportunity for old friend to
get together and a time to make new friends. Without those who attend
TCR,
there would not be a TCR.
I also wish to thank all the people who work and help make TCR happen. I
want thank Pete for the hot tub and sauna. I want to thank Linda,
Joe, Don,
Ellie, and Ann for acting as my assistants on various tasks. I wish to
thank Stefan and all the cooks for their hard work slaving over the hot
fires. Thanks to all those who ran and participated in the contests.
And
finally thanks to all those who helped when called upon. If I missed
anyone, please accept my thanks. It is all of you who make TCR what
it is.
Sorry for making this sound like an Academy Award acceptance speech!
I hope to see y'all again next year!
Allan
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Beer bees. The bane of the Medina Lake area. I was stung on the roof of my mouth back in the late 1970s at my folks' place on Medina Lake. I've had sinus trouble ever since.
(Too many pitchers of young people. Grump grump)
Hi there,
My photos can be found here:
http://pics.ochel.net/Parties/2009-10-TCR/10014546_M8P4o
Thanks to everybody for the good times!
Cheers,
David
mark.al...@l-3com.com said the following on 10/19/2009 8:29 AM:
>
> Great job on TCR, Allan, and to all who helped out.
>
> The spread supplied by Stefan and his CCC (Caver Cooking Crew) was very
> good!
>
> The Aggies, especially, provided a lot of entertainment, activities, and
> a rather unique Speleolympics.
>
>
> Be sure to send any pictures, photos (incriminating and otherwise),
> articles and observations for publication in /The TEXAS CAVER /to:
>
>
> texascav...@yahoo.com <mailto:texascav...@yahoo.com> or
> texascav...@gmail.com <mailto:texascav...@gmail.com>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> Mark
>
>
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> *From:* Allan B. Cobb [mailto:a...@oztotl.com]
> *Sent:* Mon 10/19/2009 8:11 AM
> *To:* Texascavers@texascavers.com
> *Subject:* [Texascavers] TCR 2009
>
> I wish to thank all those who attended TCR. I like to see the friendship
> and comaradary that cavers show. TCR is an opportunity for old friend to
> get together and a time to make new friends. Without those who attend TCR,
> there would not be a TCR.
>
> I also wish to thank all the people who work and help make TCR happen. I
> want thank Pete for the hot tub and sauna. I want to thank Linda, Joe, Don,
> Ellie, and Ann for acting as my assistants on various tasks. I wish to
> thank Stefan and all the cooks for their hard work slaving over the hot
> fires. Thanks to all those who ran and participated in the contests. And
> finally thanks to all those who helped when called upon. If I missed
> anyone, please accept my thanks. It is all of you who make TCR what it is.
>
> Sorry for making this sound like an Academy Award acceptance speech!
>
> I hope to see y'all again next year!
>
> Allan
>
>
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Cavers,
I am ready to mail out final ballots to members not able to attend TCR. This
is your last chance to vote so send me a request for a ballot before the
post office closes at 4:30 pm today. Please include the return address you
wish to use.
At this point, I have three requests for ballots.
Ron Ralph, Elections Committee Chair 2009
512.280.9648
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We'll be having a Birthday Party for Monica on the 7th of November at my
house at 300 Mockingburd--2 blocks north and 1 block west of Stassney and
Congress in Deep South Austin at the end of Blueburd. Stay tuned for further
details and activities. --Ediger
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Cavers,
We will be unloading books, tents, tarps and tables at the office tomorrow
at 6:00 pm. If you can give us a hand, please reply off line by writing or
calling.
Tuesday, October 20, 2009
6:00 pm
Texas Speleological Survey office, Building 18-A
JJ Pickle Research Center
Off Burnet Road north of Rutland
Ron
280-9648
A detailed map to the JJ Pickle Research Campus can be found at
http://www.utexas.edu/maps/prc/ On PRC map 2 ("NW Area"), 18-A is the little
building just above the "ra" in "Granberry". Park to the south in the PETEX
lot across the street (Read Granberry Trail) from building 18-A. Remember
that you must arrive before 6:00 pm, or the gate guards might not let you
in!
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I am going to rent this movie and drink some mescal while I watch it. If you
don't know why, rent it yourself and pay close attention to the old gringo
waiting for the phone.
Andy
Andrew G. Gluesenkamp, Ph.D.
700 Billie Brooks Drive
Driftwood, Texas 78619
(512) 799-1095
a...@gluesenkamp.com
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The PEP area caves will be open for caving during the 9-day Thanksgiving
holiday week beginning on the evening of Friday the 20th November through
Sunday the 29th. A shorter trip is possible but not likely to be as
productive. As always, drivers with high-clearance 4-WD vehicles are needed
to haul people and gear up to that remote site. We are still concentrating
on route finding and cave familiarization for future exploration/survey team
leaders so if you are interested in that come down and pick out a work area.
There are over 2000 unchecked leads in this 95 kilometer long mostly
horizontal system. Great caving awaits you. Contact me at this e-address or
call 410-303-1177 to confirm or for more information.--Ediger
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I have the lost and found stuff from TCR. If you are missing something
I might have it. I have towels, clothes, shoes, a watch and a
flashlight. Describe it and I'll get it back to you.
Also, I have reports of two missing cameras. Both are Olympus cameras.
One is silver and the other is silver and green. The silver and green
one has Shade written on it. It is also in a neoprene case. If you
found or have any information on either camera, please contact me.
Thanks
Allan
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This is cave related, because it is about a Texas caver,and his proposal
could some day have an effect on the
future of caving.
For as long as I can remember, Jim McLane, has been sharing
his proposal with cavers about sending an astronaut to Mars
on a one-way mission. For years, he has been trying to get NASA and
other space program leaders to listen to him.
Well, today he made the front page of the Houston Chronicle. So
maybe NASA, finally has to formally put his plan on the table, as
all the other plans now seem even more un-realistic.
Unfortunately, the Houston Chronicle is not a respected newspaper,
and lately it has become lame. This particular article appears to have
been written for an 8th grade level audience, and the author writes like
a freshman college student.
Anyways, if NASA were to do it Jim's way, we could have a an astronaut
on Mars in 15 years, and he would most likely be able to look for caves
and explore them, as he would have an immediate need to find shelter.
On that part, I strongly agree with Jim and support his proposal.
What I disagree with ( and especially with the Chinese proposal ) is, "what
is the
definition of man?" They keep saying "put a man on Mars."
My proposal is to find the smallest human available that is healthy enough
to
survive the trip, and design the capsule around him or her. I would even
propose
considering a parapelgic who is already psychologically accustomed to
confinement.
And 3rd, I would propose a hard-landing versus the Apollo style landings.
I hope Jim succeeds in his endeavors with this as it is his life goal.
Also, I hope
he gets credit for his ideas, and that his ideas are not hijacked by
somebody who
steals them.
David Locklear
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A posted a few recent photos of Ed on Facebook yesterday. Cavers who aren't
on Facebook can see them via this public link:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2041427&id=1172443723&l=56982bf669
--Frank
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According to Glen Cushing, a scientist at the USGS, one area of Mars likely
to have some long large lava tube caves is on the slopes of the volcano
below:
http://www.solarviews.com/raw/mars/arsia.gif
You can zoom in once by clicking on the photo.
Note numerous large holes which in some cases are nearly a kilometer apart.
This is the same area that was discussed on CaveTex in 2007 when photos of
large pits
were first released.
Ref:
http://www.usgs.gov/newsroom/article.asp?ID=2330
Note he thinks that robots will someday do our caving for us.
There is a problem with that theory. The current robots require an
operator using radio remote control to tell the robot which moves to make.
Any speleo-robot would have to have the capability to make caving decision
on his own. Such as, "should I use a figure 8 knot here, or a bowline ?"
I don't think any of us will live long enough to see a robot make those
kind of decisions.
So the next choice would be some kind of tethered speleo-robot. But once
the cave reaches a kilometer long, that would not be practical.
The best bet would be to develop some kind of specialized ridge-walker with
GPS, video, and
sensors, that would have the capability to fire some kind of probe into a
pit or cave entrance.
David Locklear
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