texascavers Digest 30 Jul 2009 17:57:55 -0000 Issue 811
Topics (messages 11529 through 11541):
Re: bandit cave
11529 by: germanyj.aol.com
11532 by: Heather Tucek
11535 by: Fritz Holt
Re: ICS Amazing Backpack Stories
11530 by: Frank Binney
11531 by: vivbone.att.net
11536 by: Fritz Holt
11538 by: John P Brooks
11540 by: germanyj.aol.com
ICS photos: Frank's public link
11533 by: Frank Binney
11537 by: Nancy Weaver
Re: ICS Attendance
11534 by: Katherine Arens
Re: Photos & Articles from the ICS and Points Beyond - The TC Needs YOUR
Submissions!
11539 by: Fritz Holt
TSA Officer Nominations Chair
11541 by: Mark.Alman.l-3com.com
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And show them the Texas Cavers movie ;-)
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From: Andy Zenker <andyzen...@yahoo.com>
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:49 am
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] bandit cave
Just invite them to the next caver party at Aimee and Geoff's.
Andy Zenker
Texas Caver
--- On Thu, 7/30/09, Aimee Beveridge <aim...@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Aimee Beveridge
<aim...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] bandit cave
To: "freddie poer" <freddiepoe...@yahoo.com>, "William H. Russell"
<whruss...@gmail.com>
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 10:31 AM
?
The owner has put in a?new fence along the property and I believe there are no
trespassing signs.?
--- On Thu, 7/30/09, William H. Russell <whruss...@gmail.com> wrote:
From: William H. Russell <whruss...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] bandit cave
To: "freddie poer" <freddiepoe...@yahoo.com>
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 8:12 AM
Freddie,
??? The current owner is very protective of Bandit cave and it not using it as
a dump.? He is somewhat (in my view) overprotective and has not even let
biologists into his cave to study the biology, but he is protecting the cave.?
For several years prior to the current owner acquiring the cave the cave was
used for neighborhood parties, especially on Halloween, and when the new owner
took over he was under pressure to continue this tradition.? He resisted, and
this experience is probably is what lead to the current very restrictive access
policy.? The cave is still there, but checking it out would be difficult as the
cave has a stout steel door, and we need use caver requests for access
carefully, at first they should be for worthwhile studies; and then we can
build a relation with the landowner.? There are digging leads in the cave, but
they were pushed in the past to where the
diggers gave up.
Bill Russell
> Geoff and Aimee's post about the showing of the Austin Cavers movie at their
> house reminded me of a cave that I haven't heard anything about in thirty
> years. Bandit cave is an ex-commercial cave in Rollingwood that was in a
> vacant lot only three blocks from Geoff and Aimee's house. The last time I
> checked, it appeared the lot was still vacant and being used as a
> neighborhood yard waste dump. This cave had two entrances, one of which was a
> large steel door that was the commercial entrance. It was wired for lighting
> which was non-functioning as of my last visit in 1978. It had standing room
> in it and several crawling leads. An ex-mayor of Austin claims that the cave
> had a crawlway that exited at lake Austin in the cliffs above Redbud isle.
> Has anyone done anything recently with it? Any conservation efforts, or
> landowner contact?
-- William Hart Russell
4806 Red River
Street
Austin, TX? 78751
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And make sure they're drunk before you ask for cave access. :p
2009/7/30 <germa...@aol.com>
> And show them the Texas Cavers movie ;-)
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Zenker <andyzen...@yahoo.com>
> To: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2009 10:49 am
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] bandit cave
>
> Just invite them to the next caver party at Aimee and Geoff's.
>
> Andy Zenker
> Texas Caver
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Thu, 7/30/09, Aimee Beveridge <aim...@yahoo.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Aimee Beveridge <aim...@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] bandit cave
> To: "freddie poer" <freddiepoe...@yahoo.com>, "William H. Russell" <
> whruss...@gmail.com>
> Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 10:31 AM
>
>
> The owner has put in a new fence along the property and I believe there are
> no trespassing signs.
>
> --- On *Thu, 7/30/09, William H. Russell <whruss...@gmail.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: William H. Russell <whruss...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Texascavers] bandit cave
> To: "freddie poer" <freddiepoe...@yahoo.com>
> Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
> Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 8:12 AM
>
> Freddie,
> The current owner is very protective of Bandit cave and it not using it
> as a dump. He is somewhat (in my view) overprotective and has not even let
> biologists into his cave to study the biology, but he is protecting the
> cave. For several years prior to the current owner acquiring the cave the
> cave was used for neighborhood parties, especially on Halloween, and when
> the new owner took over he was under pressure to continue this tradition.
> He resisted, and this experience is probably is what lead to the current
> very restrictive access policy. The cave is still there, but checking it
> out would be difficult as the cave has a stout steel door, and we need use
> caver requests for access carefully, at first they should be for worthwhile
> studies; and then we can build a relation with the landowner. There are
> digging leads in the cave, but they were pushed in the past to where the
> diggers gave up.
> Bill Russell
>
>
>
>
>
> > Geoff and Aimee's post about the showing of the Austin Cavers movie at
> their house reminded me of a cave that I haven't heard anything about in
> thirty years. Bandit cave is an ex-commercial cave in Rollingwood that was
> in a vacant lot only three blocks from Geoff and Aimee's house. The last
> time I checked, it appeared the lot was still vacant and being used as a
> neighborhood yard waste dump. This cave had two entrances, one of which was
> a large steel door that was the commercial entrance. It was wired for
> lighting which was non-functioning as of my last visit in 1978. It had
> standing room in it and several crawling leads. An ex-mayor of Austin claims
> that the cave had a crawlway that exited at lake Austin in the cliffs above
> Redbud isle. Has anyone done anything recently with it? Any conservation
> efforts, or landowner contact?
>
>
> -- William Hart Russell
> 4806 Red River Street
> Austin, TX 78751
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> CELL: 512-940-8336
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Bill,
How close to the gated entrance is the second entrance and is it also gated? I
would think that the overprotective(smart)owner would welcome a select,
responsible few cavers to clean out the entrances should they need it. What
quadrant of which city is this cave located?
Fritz
-----Original Message-----
From: William H. Russell [mailto:whruss...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 8:12 AM
To: freddie poer
Cc: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] bandit cave
Freddie,
The current owner is very protective of Bandit cave and it not using it
as a dump. He is somewhat (in my view) overprotective and has not even let
biologists into his cave to study the biology, but he is protecting the cave.
For several years prior to the current owner acquiring the cave the cave was
used for neighborhood parties, especially on Halloween, and when the new owner
took over he was under pressure to continue this tradition. He resisted, and
this experience is probably is what lead to the current very restrictive access
policy. The cave is still there, but checking it out would be difficult as the
cave has a stout steel door, and we need use caver requests for access
carefully, at first they should be for worthwhile studies; and then we can
build a relation with the landowner. There are digging leads in the cave, but
they were pushed in the past to where the diggers gave up.
Bill Russell
>Geoff and Aimee's post about the showing of the Austin Cavers movie at
>their house reminded me of a cave that I haven't heard anything about
>in thirty years. Bandit cave is an ex-commercial cave in Rollingwood
>that was in a vacant lot only three blocks from Geoff and Aimee's
>house. The last time I checked, it appeared the lot was still vacant
>and being used as a neighborhood yard waste dump. This cave had two
>entrances, one of which was a large steel door that was the commercial
>entrance. It was wired for lighting which was non-functioning as of my
>last visit in 1978. It had standing room in it and several crawling
>leads. An ex-mayor of Austin claims that the cave had a crawlway that
>exited at lake Austin in the cliffs above Redbud isle. Has anyone done
>anything recently with it? Any conservation efforts, or landowner
>contact?
--
William Hart Russell
4806 Red River Street
Austin, TX 78751
H: 512-453-4774 (messages)
CELL: 512-940-8336
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I first met Bill Steele when we were young JV surveyors with CRF at Mammoth
Cave circa 1969--1970. He was from Indiana and I was from Missouri at the
time.
By the way, here's a link to some ICS photos I put up on my Facebook page.
I don't think you have to be on Facebook to see them:
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2032400&id=1172443723#/album.php?aid=2
032400&id=1172443723&ref=mf
--Frank
On 7/30/09 8:33 AM, "Charles Goldsmith" <wo...@justfamily.org> wrote:
> And how long have you known Bill? Caved with him?
>
> Really cool story about the Grand Canyon and your pack though.
>
> Charles
>
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Apparently you do have to be on facebook to view the photos :-(
-------------- Original message from Frank Binney <fr...@frankbinney.com>:
--------------
> I first met Bill Steele when we were young JV surveyors with CRF at Mammoth
> Cave circa 1969--1970. He was from Indiana and I was from Missouri at the
> time.
> By the way, here's a link to some ICS photos I put up on my Facebook page.
> I don't think you have to be on Facebook to see them:
> http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=2032400&id=1172443723#/album.php?aid=2
> 032400&id=1172443723&ref=mf
> --Frank
>
> On 7/30/09 8:33 AM, "Charles Goldsmith" wrote:
>
> > And how long have you known Bill? Caved with him?
> >
> > Really cool story about the Grand Canyon and your pack though.
> >
> > Charles
> >
>
>
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Bill Steele has told similar stories and is famous for this. You were just one
of the "fortunate" recipients.
Fritz
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org]
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:34 AM
To: Frank Binney
Cc: Texas Cavers
Subject: [Texascavers] Re: ICS Amazing Backpack Stories
And how long have you known Bill? Caved with him?
Really cool story about the Grand Canyon and your pack though.
Charles
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Frank Binney<fr...@frankbinney.com> wrote:
> On 7/29/09 8:46 PM, "Charles Goldsmith" <wo...@justfamily.org> wrote:
>
>> So Frank, what's this I hear about you and your extra big backpack?
>>
> Actually I had two amazing backpack experiences at ICS:
>
> 1) Back in the early 1970s I visited a multiple entrance cave in the
> Grand Canyon. Technical climbing was required to reach the entrances,
> and wetsuits were required to negotiate the stream passage deeper
> inside the cave (which, by the way, had been mapped by Rune and other
> Texas cavers back in the 1960s).
> We entered by way of a dry upper entrance, where I stashed the
> brand-new expensive backpack I had used to transport the wetsuits,
> rope and climbing gear. Twelve hours later, exhausted from pushing
> tight leads deep in the cave, we decided to save time by rappelling
> down to the Colorado River by way of a lower, wet entrance. As dawn
> light began to illuminate the Grand Canyon, we pushed off down stream
> in our oar raft and it was shortly thereafter I realized my expensive
> new backpack remained in that upper entrance.
> Over the next 35 years, especially when I passed below those cave
> entrances on numerous Grand Canyon raft trips, I wondered what might
> have happened to that pack.
> So imagine my surprise at the ICS banquet when Bob and Debbie Buecher
> came over and asked if I was missing a backpack. A few years ago Bob
> was at that particular entrance and noticed a dusty pack stashed on a
> ledge. He's got it at his home in Tucson and plans to reunite me with it.
>
> 2) My other ICS amazing backpack story concerns the charity of my good
> "friend" Bill Steele. One day I loaded up my backpack with heavy books
> I planned to mail home (ICS proceedings, Derek Ford's Castleguard
> book, Bill's Huautla book, a coffee table-sized French caving diving
> book, the Vertical Bill Cuddington bio, etc.) Unfortunately, the
> campus mail center was closed when I arrived but Bill Steele
> graciously allowed me to stash the pack in his truck while he, Diana
> and I attended the photo salon.
> Later that night he was kind enough to hand deliver the pack to me in
> Groad Hollow. As I schlepped the pack across campus to my apartment, I
> remember thinking how smart I was to be mailing those books home--they
> weighed a ton and never would have passed airline weight limits.
> The never morning I struggled to get the heavy pack on my back and
> made the long walk the length of the campus from the Pecan Grove
> apartments to the registration building coffee shop. The mail center
> wasn't open so I carried the pack around most of the day,
> criss-crossing the campus numerous times for various sessions.
> Finally I made it to the mail center with the backpack, where upon
> transferring the contents into Priority Mail cartons I discovered a
> quite large, beautifully stream-sculpted, authentic Texas karst rock
> in the bottom of the pack. What a thoughtful gift--Thanks, Bill!
>
>
>
>
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LOL......Lesson learned once again....NEVER LEAVE your back pack ALONE with
Bill Steele for even a NANO-SECOND....or you WILL end up with a rock in your
pack.
Thats like one of the "TEN COMMANDMENTS of CAVING".... Thou shalt not trusteth
thine pack to the Man O Steele...
--- On Thu, 7/30/09, Fritz Holt <fh...@townandcountryins.com> wrote:
From: Fritz Holt <fh...@townandcountryins.com>
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Re: ICS Amazing Backpack Stories
To: "Charles Goldsmith" <wo...@justfamily.org>, "Frank Binney"
<fr...@frankbinney.com>
Cc: "Texas Cavers" <texascavers@texascavers.com>
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 12:20 PM
Bill Steele has told similar stories and is famous for this. You were just one
of the "fortunate" recipients.
Fritz
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org]
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:34 AM
To: Frank Binney
Cc: Texas Cavers
Subject: [Texascavers] Re: ICS Amazing Backpack Stories
And how long have you known Bill? Caved with him?
Really cool story about the Grand Canyon and your pack though.
Charles
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Frank Binney<fr...@frankbinney.com> wrote:
> On 7/29/09 8:46 PM, "Charles Goldsmith" <wo...@justfamily.org> wrote:
>
>> So Frank, what's this I hear about you and your extra big backpack?
>>
> Actually I had two amazing backpack experiences at ICS:
>
> 1) Back in the early 1970s I visited a multiple entrance cave in the
> Grand Canyon. Technical climbing was required to reach the entrances,
> and wetsuits were required to negotiate the stream passage deeper
> inside the cave (which, by the way, had been mapped by Rune and other
> Texas cavers back in the 1960s).
> We entered by way of a dry upper entrance, where I stashed the
> brand-new expensive backpack I had used to transport the wetsuits,
> rope and climbing gear. Twelve hours later, exhausted from pushing
> tight leads deep in the cave, we decided to save time by rappelling
> down to the Colorado River by way of a lower, wet entrance. As dawn
> light began to illuminate the Grand Canyon, we pushed off down stream
> in our oar raft and it was shortly thereafter I realized my expensive
> new backpack remained in that upper entrance.
> Over the next 35 years, especially when I passed below those cave
> entrances on numerous Grand Canyon raft trips, I wondered what might
> have happened to that pack.
> So imagine my surprise at the ICS banquet when Bob and Debbie Buecher
> came over and asked if I was missing a backpack. A few years ago Bob
> was at that particular entrance and noticed a dusty pack stashed on a
> ledge. He's got it at his home in Tucson and plans to reunite me with it.
>
> 2) My other ICS amazing backpack story concerns the charity of my good
> "friend" Bill Steele. One day I loaded up my backpack with heavy books
> I planned to mail home (ICS proceedings, Derek Ford's Castleguard
> book, Bill's Huautla book, a coffee table-sized French caving diving
> book, the Vertical Bill Cuddington bio, etc.) Unfortunately, the
> campus mail center was closed when I arrived but Bill Steele
> graciously allowed me to stash the pack in his truck while he, Diana
> and I attended the photo salon.
> Later that night he was kind enough to hand deliver the pack to me in
> Groad Hollow. As I schlepped the pack across campus to my apartment, I
> remember thinking how smart I was to be mailing those books home--they
> weighed a ton and never would have passed airline weight limits.
> The never morning I struggled to get the heavy pack on my back and
> made the long walk the length of the campus from the Pecan Grove
> apartments to the registration building coffee shop. The mail center
> wasn't open so I carried the pack around most of the day,
> criss-crossing the campus numerous times for various sessions.
> Finally I made it to the mail center with the backpack, where upon
> transferring the contents into Priority Mail cartons I discovered a
> quite large, beautifully stream-sculpted, authentic Texas karst rock
> in the bottom of the pack. What a thoughtful gift--Thanks, Bill!
>
>
>
>
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He's not the only one who does this!? I've been a victim as well, but since I
collect rocks, it really wasn't a bad thing!
julia
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From: John P Brooks <jpbrook...@sbcglobal.net>
To: Charles Goldsmith <wo...@justfamily.org>; Frank Binney
<fr...@frankbinney.com>; Fritz Holt <fh...@townandcountryins.com>
Cc: Texas Cavers <texascavers@texascavers.com>
Sent: Thu, Jul 30, 2009 12:39 pm
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Re: ICS Amazing Backpack Stories
LOL......Lesson learned once again....NEVER LEAVE your back pack ALONE with
Bill Steele for even a NANO-SECOND....or you?WILL end up with a rock in your
pack.
?
Thats like one of the "TEN COMMANDMENTS of CAVING".... Thou shalt not trusteth
thine pack to the Man O Steele...
--- On Thu, 7/30/09, Fritz Holt <fh...@townandcountryins.com> wrote:
From: Fritz Holt <fh...@townandcountryins.com>
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] Re: ICS Amazing Backpack Stories
To: "Charles Goldsmith" <wo...@justfamily.org>, "Frank Binney"
<fr...@frankbinney.com>
Cc: "Texas Cavers" <texascavers@texascavers.com>
List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com
Date: Thursday, July 30, 2009, 12:20 PM
Bill Steele has told similar stories and is famous for this. You were just one
of the "fortunate" recipients.
Fritz
-----Original Message-----
From: Charles Goldsmith [mailto:wo...@justfamily.org]
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:34 AM
To: Frank Binney
Cc: Texas Cavers
Subject: [Texascavers] Re: ICS Amazing Backpack Stories
And how long have you known Bill?? Caved with him?
Really cool story about the Grand Canyon and your pack though.
Charles
On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 10:23 AM, Frank Binney<fr...@frankbinney.com> wrote:
> On 7/29/09 8:46 PM, "Charles Goldsmith" <wo...@justfamily.org> wrote:
>
>> So Frank, what's this I hear about you and your extra big backpack?
>>
> Actually I had two amazing backpack experiences at ICS:
>
> 1) Back in the early 1970s I visited a multiple entrance cave in the
> Grand Canyon. Technical climbing was required to reach the entrances,
> and wetsuits were required to negotiate the stream passage deeper
> inside the cave (which, by the way, had been mapped by Rune and other
> Texas cavers back in the 1960s).
> We entered by way of a dry upper entrance, where I stashed the
> brand-new expensive backpack I had used to transport the wetsuits,
> rope and climbing gear. Twelve hours later, exhausted from pushing
> tight leads deep in the cave, we decided to save time by
rappelling
> down to the Colorado River by way of a lower, wet entrance. As dawn
> light began to illuminate the Grand Canyon, we pushed off down stream
> in our oar raft and it was shortly thereafter I realized my expensive
> new backpack remained in that upper entrance.
> Over the next 35 years, especially when I passed below those cave
> entrances on numerous Grand Canyon raft trips, I wondered what might
> have happened to that pack.
> So imagine my surprise at the ICS banquet when Bob and Debbie Buecher
> came over and asked if I was missing a backpack. A few years ago Bob
> was at that particular entrance and noticed a dusty pack stashed on a
> ledge. He's got it at his home in Tucson and plans to reunite me with it.
>
> 2) My other ICS amazing backpack story concerns the charity of my good
> "friend" Bill Steele. One day I loaded up my backpack with heavy
books
> I planned to mail home (ICS proceedings, Derek Ford's Castleguard
> book, Bill's Huautla book, a coffee table-sized French caving diving
> book, the Vertical Bill Cuddington bio, etc.) Unfortunately, the
> campus mail center was closed when I arrived but Bill Steele
> graciously allowed me to stash the pack in his truck while he, Diana
> and I attended the photo salon.
> Later that night he was kind enough to hand deliver the pack to me in
> Groad Hollow. As I schlepped the pack across campus to my apartment, I
> remember thinking how smart I was to be mailing those books home--they
> weighed a ton and never would have passed airline weight limits.
> The never morning I struggled to get the heavy pack on my back and
> made the long walk the length of the campus from the Pecan Grove
> apartments to the registration building coffee shop. The mail center
> wasn't
open so I carried the pack around most of the day,
> criss-crossing the campus numerous times for various sessions.
> Finally I made it to the mail center with the backpack, where upon
> transferring the contents into Priority Mail cartons I discovered a
> quite large, beautifully stream-sculpted, authentic Texas karst rock
> in the bottom of the pack. What a thoughtful gift--Thanks, Bill!
>
>
>
>
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A second on keeping the website around.
the UIS will be able to use a lot of it for the future -- esp. the
translations of policy documents on competitions, for exam, and i
heard rumor that a lot of the material there was written down for the
first time.
don't let the URL expire -- it can be settled on some other server, if need be.
-katie
At 7:49 AM -0600 7/30/09, Pete Lindsley wrote:
Bill, the last count (unofficial) was 1565, more than 300 additional
cavers beyond those registered at the start of the congress. Last
Sunday it was undecided if the new names would be added to the ICS
web site, which should stay up for at least a couple of months.
Perhaps when Karen Kastning makes it back home in a few days a more
official count can be announced.
Personally, I think the ICS web site was a great piece of work and
that Texas cavers should push to keep it on line and update it to
reflect the success of the 2nd Congress to be held in the USA. I
would like to see pictures added that illustrate as many activities
as possible so that the few that were unable to make it at the last
minute can enjoy what the rest of us experienced.
- Pete
On Jul 29, 2009, at 9:11 PM, Bill Stephens wrote:
Does anyone know the final attendance numbers and number of nations
represented at the ICS?
Bill
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Mark,
What is the deadline?
Fritz
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From: mark.al...@l-3com.com [mailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 7:34 AM
To: Texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: [Texascavers] Photos & Articles from the ICS and Points Beyond - The
TC Needs YOUR Submissions!
All,
As of 7/30, 7:30 AM, I only have one photo (a rather sexy one from Bill Steele)
from the ICS for The TEXAS CAVER!
Other than that, I have ZERO photos, ZERO trip reports, ZERO articles and other
miscellanea submitted for publication in the next issue.
Looks like a VERY thin next issue of the TC.
Hey, at least we'll save some dinero for the TSA!
C'mon, people, I'll give you a few more days to recuperate from the ICS, but,
it's time to get busy!
Send something/anything to texascav...@yahoo.com<mailto:texascav...@yahoo.com>.
Thanks!
(A desperate) Mark
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Are you good at twisting arms?
Do you have the wit, charm, and powers of persuasion that easily allow you to
win friends and influence others?
Do you have embarrasing details, photos, wiretaps, or other information on
certain cavers that would compel them to serve as a TSA Officer, rather than
have these details see the light of day?
If so, the TSA could use you as it's new Officer Nominations Chair!
After several years of dedicated service in this post, Linda Palit is taking a
well deserved break and we need a replacement.
If this sounds like your cup of tea, please contact me offline.
If not, we'll have to Shanghai someone to serve in her stead!
Thanks!
Mark
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