Well sorta, I'm only coming from Austin. Though we do have a lot of ASS helping out too and making this possible.
Thanks for the note, Matt Turner "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle "Empty pockets never held anyone back.Only empty heads and empty hearts can do that."- Norman Vincent Peale ________________________________ From: Geary Schindel <gschin...@edwardsaquifer.org> To: Matt Turner <kat...@yahoo.com>; "Cavers, Texas" <Texascavers@texascavers.com> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 9:38:51 AM Subject: RE: [Texascavers] ICS Matt, Aren’t you paying with your gas money to drive to and from A&M and the convention all for the privilege of taking a bunch of folks caving in caves you’re already seen. Anyway, thanks for your hard work. Geary From:Matt Turner [mailto:kat...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 8:56 AM To: Cavers, Texas Subject: Re: [Texascavers] ICS Everyone, To put a face to the nameless "freeriders", I will say I am one of them. Though as Travis pointed out I don't get the fun that comes with registering. Here's what we get for our "Freeride". Me and my co-trip lead will get the lovely opportunity to get to ICS on Saturday to have a cave trip leader meeting. Next we get the enviable ability to go check into our hotel(paid for by US not ICS). Now for the part that will make you all so jealous. I get to get up at like 6am to make sure the van is loaded and ready for the trip on Sunday. Then I get to drive to Colorado Bend State Park and take people on a tour of different caves. Of course next is the drive back. Then this sunday I get to drive home to make it to work on Monday. Finally I get to rinse and repeat this the following weekend as well. Don't get me wrong I'm more than excited to do this and to help out, but I just want anyone who feels put out to realize that it's not what you're imagining. I realize many of you will be volunteering all week long and will be paying to be there to do this. I would have done the same if I could have afforded the time off, but I couldn't, so this is how i could help out. Sorry if my help pisses some of you off, don't worry I know some out there appreciate it, Matt Turner "It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." - Aristotle "Empty pockets never held anyone back.Only empty heads and empty hearts can do that."- Norman Vincent Peale ________________________________ From:Travis Scott <tra...@oztotl.com> Cc: "Cavers, Texas" <Texascavers@texascavers.com> Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 8:34:08 AM Subject: Re: [Texascavers] ICS Everyone, just to make it clear and ease any unnecessary frustration, the volunteers that are using this "special registration" are only allowed to assist in leading trips, or whatever they have volunteered to do. They do not get to go to the parties, talks, and other events that the paying folk will get to enjoy. So don't feel like they are "getting a free ride" into the ICS, they are very limited on what they can do. They were given the registration to cover them under ICS insurance so that they could help us lead the trips. In fact, without these people, there would be half of the caving trips that we have offered. So if you pay the $15 and go caving, chances are that the trip you are on is ONLY possible because of some of these volunteers, so be thankful! They are playing a large role in the ICS that many of the paid people aren't willing or able to do. Travis Don Cooper wrote: Yeah, well maybe we should, but we're not. Perhaps I could have volunteered through the whole thing and not registered, but not with my head held high. Not when so many others HAVE paid essentially to work for free. -WaV On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 8:48 PM, Lyndon Tiu <l...@alumni.sfu.ca> wrote: They should be registering--and paying. No free ride here, boy howdy. I don't think anyone is getting a free ride, they are helping the ICS but are NOT getting any of the benefits of a paid ICS registration (parties, free beer, banquets, etc.). We should be glad they are giving some of their time to help the ICS for free. FYI: I am registered (I paid my $200 back in Dec 2008) ... but I think volunteers should get a free ride. But that's totally my opinion. On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 7:30 PM, Lyndon Tiu <l...@alumni.sfu.ca <mailto:l...@alumni.sfu.ca>> wrote: Plus the many Texas cavers who are volunteering (cave trip leaders/van drivers/Aggies) but are not registering. They count too. -- Lyndon Tiu --------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com -- Travis Scott 979.450.0103 Cell tra...@oztotl.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- Visit our website: http://texascavers.com To unsubscribe, e-mail: texascavers-unsubscr...@texascavers.com For additional commands, e-mail: texascavers-h...@texascavers.com
