Thanks Butch!

People can print their own damned hard copies! 

Here's an idea - let's just pool a portion of the dues money and communally buy 
a good quality color printer (since that is a fairly expensive iten for a lot 
of individuals and probably most of us don't have one) and then mail it out.  

Oh wait...




________________________________
From: Butch Fralia <bfra...@maverickgrotto.org>
To: Butch Fralia <bfra...@maverickgrotto.org>; mark.al...@l-3com.com; Keith 
Goggin <ke...@sbcglobal.net>; Lyndon Tiu <l...@alumni.sfu.ca>; 
texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 10:36:28 AM
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] The TEXAS CAVER Is Now Online!!!! - Bug fixes


You can now update your profile online and change the state on both 
registration and your profile.  
 
Butch
 
 
From:Butch Fralia [mailto:bfra...@maverickgrotto.org] 
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 9:49 AM
To: mark.al...@l-3com.com; 'Keith Goggin'; 'Lyndon Tiu'; 
texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] The TEXAS CAVER Is Now Online!!!!
 
I never understood that registering for the member area would determine whether 
someone got a hard copy or electronic copy.  Whether you get a hard copy or 
electronic copy is a membership option (online anyway).  Electronic copies 
should be available to all members but some members will opt to get their copy 
there vs. a hard copy.  Personally I prefer the electronic version because I’m 
swamped in “hard copy.”
 
Butch
 
P.S., I’ve noted a few folks Mark, Lyndon finding bugs, I’ll get those attended 
to asap.
 
 
 
From:mark.al...@l-3com.com [mailto:mark.al...@l-3com.com] 
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 7:59 AM
To: Keith Goggin; Lyndon Tiu; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] The TEXAS CAVER Is Now Online!!!!
 
We can look into this option, Keith.
 
Another item for your "To Do List", huh. Butch?


Thanks,
 
Mark
 
 
 

________________________________

From:Keith Goggin [mailto:ke...@sbcglobal.net]
Sent: Fri 1/16/2009 7:58 AM
To: Alman, Mark @ IRP; Lyndon Tiu; texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] The TEXAS CAVER Is Now Online!!!!
Maybe I've misread something, but seems to me that regardless of whether or not 
you pay more for a hard copy the digital copies should be available to all paid 
members.
 

________________________________

From:"mark.al...@l-3com.com" <mark.al...@l-3com.com>
To: Lyndon Tiu <l...@alumni.sfu.ca>; texascavers@texascavers.com
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 7:40:24 AM
Subject: RE: [Texascavers] The TEXAS CAVER Is Now Online!!!!


No, Lyndon.

We agreed to strongly encourage everyone to sign up in the Members
Section on the TSA website. 

By doing so, this would indicate that you would be accessing the site
for each TC that comes out.

If you're on this Members List, you will NOT be receiving a hard copy.

We will gauge the response. We have 20 signed up, so far.

We may have to tweak this setup and, possibly, revisit in April.

More than one person has suggested going all electronic on the TC and
charging more for those that want the hard copy.


Lots of ideas and discussions and that's a good thing.

See you this evening, Lyndon. Drive careful and thanks for helping out!


Mark



-----Original Message-----
From: Lyndon Tiu [mailto:l...@alumni.sfu.ca] 
Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 7:36 AM
To: texascavers@texascavers.com
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] The TEXAS CAVER Is Now Online!!!!


On Fri, 16 Jan 2009 07:08:13 -0600 mark.al...@l-3com.com wrote:
> We may revisit this in April and go to the two-tiered membership, 
> A lower fee for electronic access only and a higher fee for a mailed
TC.

Q: I forgot how we agreed on this. Is it by default, starting Q1 2009 -
that everyone will NOT get a mailed hard copy unless they specifically
request for it? And they only have to request once and all future copies
will be mailed out to them or is it one request per issue?

Depending on the A to the above Q. An option is to sit this out and wait
and observe how things go. If the majority are happy with the electronic
version and only a few are being mailed out. Then we have solved the
primary goal of having electronic copies - saving money.

I think a majority will opt for the electronic copy anyways. Only a few
will want mailed hard copies. For the few that want it, let them have
it.

I (not getting a hard copy) personally don't mind paying the same
membership amount as a person who is getting his hard copy.

I believe most don't mind either.

--
Lyndon Tiu

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