VIVA LIGNITE! When the pollution problem is affordably solved. You can bet on more than $24. per barrel. Fritz
________________________________ From: Louise Power [mailto:power_lou...@hotmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 11:18 AM To: Don Cooper; qui...@clearwire.net Cc: o...@texascavers.com Subject: RE: [ot_caving] Russia's Gazprom Talks Up European CNG Refuelling Network I saw an interesting piece on the news this weekend about turning coal into cheap gasoline. Apparently they're already doing it on a big scale in South Africa. The guy who spoke during the piece said that there is enough coal in the US to provide gas for 250 years at about $24/bbl. BIG DRAWBACK: Too much air pollution from the current process. Apparently the S Africans are looking to the US to develop a pollution-reduced or pollution-free process. ________________________________ List-Post: texascavers@texascavers.com Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 12:39:38 -0400 From: wavyca...@gmail.com To: qui...@clearwire.net CC: o...@texascavers.com Subject: Re: [ot_caving] Russia's Gazprom Talks Up European CNG Refuelling Network Well - not TRYING to sound like Locklear, but - I predict CNG and LNG will become important transportation fuels. H4C is just about as plentiful and replenishmental as it gets - It already exists and our wastes readily produce it as well. Millions of pounds of food waste go out to the landfills around Austin every day. It can't be re-used as food (well some of it could, but that would just be too much trouble for restaurants who don't really care about those who cannot afford to eat haute cuisine) So why not use this waste as fuel - it sure makes a WHOLE lot more sense than using food from the TOP of the food production chain! Anaerobic reprocessing of food waste seems to be the most efficient means possible. Besides, its good karma. -WaV Keep the Earth Clean! It's NOT Uranus! On Sat, Jul 5, 2008 at 9:34 AM, <qui...@clearwire.net<mailto:qui...@clearwire.net>> wrote: Look who is working on a strong hold on Europe's NG supply! Ummm! Wonder if they take it? At the same time there is info on French Biogas at the bottom of this email. I know my town is setting up our dump site for future bio gas as they have had one or more offers to buy the gas at a pretty good price and will put in the equipment at no cost to the city. The city has to place and cover the trash in some frame work and this means some seperation (that was going on anyway) of trash. Quinta Market Developments Sourced NGV Global Friday, 27 June 2008 00:00 Russia, Moscow Alexei Miller, CEO of Gazprom - Russia's state-controlled gas giant - announced that the company would like to develop a network of CNG filling stations for automobiles all across Europe. "I would like to announce Gazprom's new initiative. We are offering our European partners to consider together a project to set up an extensive network of natural gas filling stations in Europe with Gazprom's participation," Miller, who is also deputy chairman of Gazprom's board of directors, told the company's annual shareholder meeting in Moscow. Miller said CNG could be the best alternative for traditional petroleum fuels. "There is no any real alternative for the use of hydrocarbons at present or in the next decades," Miller said, adding that "an attempt to replace motor fuel with biofuels has lead to a threat of the global food crisis." Gazprom has massive resources at its disposal. If their offer is taken up by European partners, this could result is a major growth shift for NGVs in Europe. Market Developments Sourced NGV Global Wednesday, 25 June 2008 00:00 France Capacity to service 210 light vehicles Veolia Environmental Services Ile-de-France is to establish their first French unit producing biomethane from biogas. The project was established in collaboration with Veolia Environnement's Cleanliness and Energy Research Center (CRPE) and recovers biogas in the form of biomethane on its non-hazardous landfill site of Claye-Souilly (France, 77). This new process, currently in the industrial project phase, will be implemented in the second quarter of 2009. It will produce 60 Nm3/hr of biomethane fuel from 200 Nm3/hr of biogas captured in the landfill, representing the energy requirements of a fleet of 210 light vehicles. >From an environmental point of view, biomethane is a renewable fuel and >presents a positive carbon balance, compared with the use of natural gas or >other fossil-based fuels. For example, the replacement of diesel by biomethane >fuel would offset a light vehicle's average emission of 140g/km of CO2, i.e. >882 tons of CO2 per year for a fleet of 210 light vehicles, based on an annual >consumption of 30,000 km/year/vehicle. Pascal Peslerbe Veolia Environmental Services Ile-de-France's Treatment Director said, "With this industrial pilot, Veolia Environmental Services will develop an area of expertise that complements its energy recovery activities by the direct production of a renewable fuel that is a substitute product for fossil energies, and for natural gas in particular." Veolia Environmental Services, on its Claye-Souilly site, carries out material recovery (sorting center for economic waste, wood crushing facility, tire crushing facility, bottom ash treatment center) and energy recovery activities (production of electricity from the biogas generated by waste fermentation, with a 26MW power equivalent to the annual consumption, excluding heating, of 228,000 inhabitants).