On Jan 20, 2008, at 8:04 PM, Andy Grubbs wrote:

This is a reply I sent to Fritz, RD and John Brooks the other day

" If it wasnt for the organizations like NSS and TSA, American cavers would
still be flashlight toting spelunkers, instead of the robot diving,
Lechuguilla mapping,
geomicrobiological investigating, karst protecting, survey inventorying,
deep cave expeditionary speleonauts that we are

These things are due to their individual educations and drive for excellence, not the TSA.

I wasn't aware that Lechuguilla was a TSA project, and I'm fairly certain that survey inventorying is a TSS deal, and TCC and TCMA are really into karst protecting. I could be wrong but I thought the DepthX project was a NASA & Bill Stone deal, NOT TSA.

plus; we get to drink a lot of beer when we get together "

This is the result of the TCR.

This to me summs up the real benefit of caver organizations.

Such as the UT Grotto or Bexar Grotto or Maverick Grotto etc.?

Way too many
people can not see this for what it is.

The Texas Caver.

SiO2 is the sand on the beach and
the glass windshield in your car. Try to drink fine wine out of a handful
of sand.

Um..., yeah.

AGG

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