Rod,

I understand. It is an underground cave at original ground level. Still,
quite cool since the bats came. Build it and they will come.

Fritz

 

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From: Rod Goke [mailto:rod.g...@ieee.org] 
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 12:40 AM
To: Fritz Holt
Cc: Brian Vauter; texascavers list
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Aboveground Caves

 

Yes, he did, but if I remember correctly, he covered it with dirt
(except for the entrance, of course), so it is now an underground cave. 

Rod 

Fritz Holt wrote: 

        David Bamberger, a Texas conservationist rancher, built an
artificial bat cave on his ranch which I understand is inhabited by
bats.

        Fritz 

        
        
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        From: Rod Goke [mailto:rod.g...@ieee.org]

        
        Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 8:45 PM 
        To: Brian Vauter 
        Cc: texascavers list 
        Subject: [Texascavers] Aboveground Caves 

        Aboveground caves are more common than most people realize. One
that is known to many Texas cavers is the plywood cube maze that was
erected at several Texas Caver Reunions and certain other caver events.
This structure obviously was above ground, and, although it didn't look
much like a natural cave, it was advertised as a "cave" by the cavers
who built it and who crawled around inside it.  

        A more realistic looking aboveground cave existed inside a
restaurant in the DenverColorado area, back when I lived their during
the early 1980s. The restaurant served all-you-can-eat Mexican food of a
quality that didn't encourage people to eat very much, but you had to
buy a dinner in order to get in. Its main attraction was a very large
building fixed up like a multi-theme theme park inside. It had multiple
dining areas, each elaborately decorated according to a different theme.
A couple of these areas were very cave-like inside. From time to time,
it was common for Colorado cavers to go there for an after-dinner
evening of pseudocaving in these aboveground caves, especially during
winter, when most of Colorado's underground caves were inaccessible
because of snow.  

        An even more realistic artificial cave was built inside the
FloridaStateMuseum in GainesvilleFlorida during the early 1970s, when I
was a student at the University of Florida and was caving with the
Florida Speleological Society (FSS). The museum people building this
artificial cave took great care to make it resemble a real typical
Florida cave as much as they could, including routing the air
conditioning through side passages and regulating the temperature and
humidity to resemble natural air flow in a real Florida cave.
Fortunately, Florida's typical cave temperatures were naturally
comfortable. The museum staff collaborated with FSS cavers and visited
several real Florida caves during the planning of this project. We were
especially impressed with the technique they used for constructing
remarkably realistic artificial formations by applying many layers of
slow setting epoxy, which slowly flowed and dripped as it set, gradually
building up multi-layer coatings resembling the shapes and surfaces of
natural stalactites, stalagmites, and flowstone. After it was completed,
cavers often amused themselves by photographing inside this artificial
cave and slipping the slides into slide shows of real caves to see if
other cavers could notice the difference. Unless cavers were already
familiar with the FloridaStateMuseum cave, the pictures were often
realistic enough to fool experienced cavers. Technically, the
FloridaStateMuseum cave might have been either aboveground or
underground, or perhaps a combination of both, since the
FloridaStateMuseum building was partly above and partly below ground
level.  

        If you search hard enough, I bet you can find many more examples
of "aboveground caves". Has anyone ever bothered to compile a list?  

        Rod 

        Brian Vauter wrote:  

                The caption makes use of the ever popular "underground
cave" catchphrase used by the press. 

                I wish just once we could find one of the aboveground
caves. That would make things so much easier. 

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