Nico and others,

 

I understand that is about the going rate for deer leases in Texas also.
I figured that if most folks spend 10 weekends at their lease feeding
and grooming the deer and another week shooting them, then cost comes
out to about $100 per day give or take some.  Considering the cost of
gas, travel time, food, beer, and equipment, we probably have a fair
amount of money tied up into long caving trip to west Texas and more if
we're going to Mexico.  So adding another $100 to the cost of a trip
might be more than most folks would want to consider.  Then again, $70
to $120 is the range I've heard for wild cave trips into some of the
private commercial caves and folks are willing to pay it.  It should be
interesting to see how this portion of the caving for pay issue works
out over the next couple of years.

 

Geary

 

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Nico Escamilla [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 5:37 PM
To: Geary Schindel
Cc: Bill Mixon; CaveTex
Subject: Re: [Texascavers] Langtry Lead

 

Geary

I dont know bout Texas but here in Mexico the average deer lease in the
Palo Blanco basin (the Anahuac and Lampazos area in Nuevo Leon is about
2500 to 3000 bucks per gun, hunting season lasts 8 to 10 weeks, so the
average price is less than 50 a day.. I know hunters dont spend every
single day at the lease during the season, but its just a math I'm
doing.. 
100 bucks is pretty steep at least for me

On 4/30/07, Geary Schindel <[email protected] > wrote:


Folks,

Regarding Langry Lead and Emerald Sink, I talked to the owner of the 
caves this weekend. David L. gave me the contact information.  Thank you
David.  I wanted to inquire regarding the status of the property and
caves.

It was an interesting conversation.  He was not at his office but his 
office manger recommended I call him on his cell phone.  I introduced
myself and told him who I was, asked him if the caves were still open
and that I had heard that the property might be for sale.

He said that the caves were open, it would cost $100 per person to visit

the caves.  You would have to sign a release.  He owns the property to
make money which also includes leasing the property to hunters.  He said
that the property was not for sale and that was pretty much the end of 
the conversation.

I'm not a big fan of paying to go into a cave but our conversation
implied that he was treating cavers much like hunters who do pay to hunt
on a piece of property.  If you consider the price of a hunting lease 
for a year and divide by the number of days you may be on that hunting
leave per year, than you are probably paying more per day to hunt than
to cave.  This is a very dangerous slope to be on.  I would hate to have

caving turn into a money sport where you have to pay a fee to go caving.


Geary Schindel

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