Charles,

Thanks for your help with this. I'm afraid, however, that this local subnet 
might include thousands of RoadRunner customers, including, it now seems, Orion 
Knox who lives on the other side of Austin. (I'm in Hays county.) I checked 
with one RR tech support person (probably not a good one) who says that they 
can't help -- hardly surprising. I wonder who else checks that particular 
blacklist. I haven't had this problem before and I'm subscribed to at least two 
dozen mailing lists.

Anyway, thanks for the info on gmail. I'll look into it.

I also appreciate your work in setting up and managing the TexasCavers mailing 
list.

Best regards,

--David

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Charles Goldsmith 
  To: David McKenzie 
  Sent: Monday, April 09, 2007 1:19 PM
  Subject: Re: Unable to contact texascavers.com


  David, someone on your local subnet is sending out spam, my anti-spam setup 
checks the blacklists for domains and ip ranges that are active and known 
spammers.  

  You have two choices, you can either complain to your ISP and they can work 
get off of the blacklists, or you can subscribe using another email, for 
instance gmail.com

  I highly recommend gmail, its a great service with no intrusive ads, and you 
can even use your own client with it if you like, but their webclient is 
top-notch.

  Let me know if I can help further. 
  Charles


  On 4/9/07, David McKenzie <david...@austin.rr.com> wrote:
    Dear Charles,

    I've been unable to  resubscribe to the mailing list after unsubscribing
    about a month ago. Below is an example of what I finally receive 2 days
    after any attempt to follow the User's Guide instructions at 
    texascavers.com -- that is, by sending a message to
    texascavers-subscr...@texascavers.com.

    I'm poor at interpreting this kind of info, but it appears that all my 
    messages to texascavers.com are being intercepted by a spam blocking
    service. Evidently only some people are being affected. Carl Kunath, for
    example, has no trouble contacting texascavers-h...@texascavers.com whereas
    I can't. I've not had this problem resubscribing to my other mailing lists.

    I'm hoping you can help! Thanks. 

    --David


    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Mail Delivery Subsystem" <mailer-dae...@ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com>
    To: < david...@austin.rr.com>
    Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2007 12:25 PM
    Subject: Returned mail: see transcript for details


    The original message was received at Tue, 3 Apr 2007 12:24:40 -0500 (CDT)
    from cpe-70-112-155-198.austin.res.rr.com [70.112.155.198]

       ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
    <texascavers-subscr...@texascavers.com>
        (reason: 451 Spam Received Recently See:
    http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?24.93.47.40 )

       ----- Transcript of session follows -----
    ... while talking to raistlin.wokka.org.:
    >>> RCPT To:< texascavers-subscr...@texascavers.com>
    <<< 451 Spam Received Recently See:
    http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?24.93.47.40
    < texascavers-subscr...@texascavers.com>... Deferred: 451 Spam Received
    Recently See: http://www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?24.93.47.40
    Message could not be delivered for 2 days 
    Message will be deleted from queue



    
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    Return-Path: <david...@austin.rr.com >
    Received: from black (cpe-70-112-155-198.austin.res.rr.com [70.112.155.198])
    by ms-smtp-01.texas.rr.com (8.13.6/8.13.6) with SMTP id l33HOd3n023952
    for <texascavers-subscr...@texascavers.com>; Tue, 3 Apr 2007 12:24:40 -0500
    (CDT) 
    Message-ID: <000301c77614$f69e4720$6501a8c0@black>
    From: "David McKenzie" <david...@austin.rr.com>
    To: < texascavers-subscr...@texascavers.com>
    Subject:
    Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2007 12:24:37 -0500
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