Here is a link to a former A.S.S. member and ram-rodder, trip-leader who is a big wig in New Zealand ( 1988 to 1991 ):
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.linkedin.com/in/stuart-halliday-25a48552&ved=2ahUKEwj60rSP5oLhAhUHC6wKHYfKBUwQjjgwAXoECAQQAQ&usg=AOvVaw20q0tZrliTMPdKj81ZaJ2O Please make sure to tell him you were referred by the guy that almost got him killed in "Hell Below Cave." For what it is worth, I learned a whole lot about caving that day and have only him to thank. Prior to that incident, I was bred under the culture that only morons used bolts. There were actually 3 incidents all at the same time - only one of which made it into The Texas Caver ~ 1990. D.L.
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