David, if you could succeed in getting the Illusive Pit open again for cavers, 
I promise to write a ballad about it like the minstrels of old, singing your 
praises, and enter it in the NSS Ballad Contest. How’s that for an offer?

It’s Illusive Pit. To wit:
http://www.mexicancaves.org/maps/0036.pdf

Bill Steele 
[email protected]

> On Jul 11, 2019, at 10:48 AM, David <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> The gate to the ranch is about here and was the only gate in the area around 
> 1995.
> 
> 
> https://maps.app.goo.gl/JhahJ7GmyLhWBCVW8
> 
> Gate was constructed of pipe and painted bright yellow, with a protected 
> single heavy-duty key lock.
> 
> There is a ranch house about 1/4 mile southwest beyond the gate.
> 
> Only one spot required serious four-wheeling across an arroyo
> before the house.  Bring lumber, 2×6.
> 
> The rest is flat with sharp rocks and tall sharp plants. So there, you just 
> need good ground-clearance and really tough tires
> 
> Ranch hands lived in Candela 4 blocks south of Municipal building.
> 
> Locals called it "La Mina de Something. ??" 
> 
> Owner's adult daughter lived on Nebraska St .  in Laredo, Texas about ten 
> years ago.
> 
> See Eustorgio Garcia ( R.I.P. )
> 
> 
> Using rebelays, the pit could be rigged as 3 easy drops  ( 2 ledges, one of 
> which is large enough to get off rope in an emergency ( I tested it ).
> 
> Leads are around but up high, but I think those passages may be mined tunnels.
> 
> There could potentially be more passage beneath 20 tons of guano.
> 
> I would recommend doing all the popular caves in the region there and just 
> skipping Illusive Pit.
> 
> I ridge-walked the lower elevations of the west face of the mountain several 
> times while searching for it and while hoping to find other caves.  If there 
> are other caves, they would probably be higher above Illusive Pit.
> 
> Most likely there are more caves, on that mountain.  I do not know if the 
> east face gets more rain.
> 
> I did not re-find it by myself.  The ranch-hands knew of it, but did not know 
> where it was exactly.   They were one ravine off, as I recall and about 100 
> meters off elevation. 
> 
> I gave them a 12-pack of American beer, which did not please their wives.  I 
> think I made up for that on the second trip.
> 
> I recall Terry Raines saying he verified the ledges interrupted the free 
> drop.  
> 
> My opinion is that you would have to install bolts if you did not bring a 600 
> foot rope.  We tied 3 ropes together and crossed knots which unfortunately 
> were not placed at the ledges.    ( The first time we did it )
> 
>  
> 
> D. L. 
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