Pranam
    Old lady wisdom:  *மூதுரை **  Ouvayar*

*வெண்பா : **13*
கவையாகிக் கொம்பாகிக் காட்டகத்தே நிற்கும்
அவையல்ல நல்லமரங்கள் - சபை நடுவே
நீட்டு ஓலை வாசியா நின்றான் குறிப்பு அறிய
மாட்டாதவன் நன் மரம்

*விளக்கம்*
கிளைகளோடும், கொம்புகளோடும் காட்டில் நிற்பவை மரங்கள் அல்ல. சபையின் நடுவே
ஒருவர் தரும் ஓலையில் எழுதியிருப்பதைப் படிக்கத் தெரியாதவனும், அடுத்தவர் மனதை
அறியாதவனுமே மரம் போன்றவன்

*Transliteration*
Kavaiyaakik kompakik kaattakatte nirkum
avaiyalla nallamarankal capai natuve
niittu olai vaaciya ninraan kurippu ariya
mattaathavan nan maram

*English Translation*
The large trees of the forest are not the real trees.
But those who stand in front of a gathering
Unable to read and unable to heed
Are the ones who are the real trees

*வெண்பா : **14*
கான மயில் ஆடக் கண்டிருந்த வான் கோழி
தானும் அதுவாக பாவித்துத் - தானும் தன்
பொல்லாச் சிறகை விரித்து ஆடினாற் போலும்
கல்லாதான் கற்ற கவி

*விளக்கம்*
காட்டில் மயில் ஆடுவதைப் பார்த்த வான்கோழி உடனே தன்னையும் அதைப் போலவே
நினைத்து தன்னுடைய அழகில்லாத சிறகை விரித்து ஆடுவதை போன்றதே, கல்வி கற்காதவன்
சொல்லும் கவிதையும், அதனால் ஒரு பயனும் இல்லை. விஷயமும் இல்லை.

*Transliteration*
Kana mayil aatak kantiruntha van koli
tanum atuvaka paviththut tanum tan
polla cirakai virittu atinaar polum
kallathan katra kavi

*English Translation*
An illiterate person writing a poem
Pretending to be a learned bard, is
Like a turkey that pretends to be a peacock
Spreading its ugly wings and trying to dance

*வெண்பா : **24*
நற்றாமரைக் கயத்தில் நல் அன்னம் சேர்தாற்போல்
கற்றாரைக் கற்றாறே காமுறுவர் – கற்பிலா
மூர்க்கரை மூர்க்கரே முகப்பர் முதுகாட்டில்
காக்கை உகக்கும் பிணம்.

*விளக்கம்*
குளத்தில் பூத்திருக்கும் தாமரையை அன்னப்பறவை சேர்ந்தது போல கற்றவர்களைக்
கற்றவர்களே விரும்பிச் சேர்வர். சுடுகாட்டில் பிணத்தைக் காக்கைச் சேர்வது
போல, கல்வி
அறிவில்லாத மூடரை, மூடர்களே சேர்வர்

*Transliteration*
Natraamaraik kayatthil nll annam certharpol
katraraik katraare kamuruvar karpilaa
muurkkarai murkkare mukappar mutukattil
kakkai ukakkum pinam"

*English Translation*
The swan in a pond seeks out the lotus flower, likewise
The learned will reach out to other learned men, but
The wicked will only seek out other wicked people
Like a crow that seeks out a dead body                                KR
IRS 1421



On Thu, 1 Apr 2021 at 09:39, Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Thank you very much Rajaram Krisnamurthy Sir.
> YM
>
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2021 at 9:37 AM Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Sir,
>> Can you not sacrifice your style of derision,discount and
>> denigration,respond to me the author giving respect and by not addressing
>> only the whole group,but giving the notice of existence of persons like me?
>> YM
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 8:57 PM Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Dear folks
>>>
>>> One would-be modern missionary preaching a new dogma proclaims that all
>>> primitive societies
>>>
>>> *"find deeper meanings in rains, thunder, floods, earth quakes."*
>>>
>>> This is because these "happenings" are acts of God, and
>>>
>>> *"the idea of God happens or gets created by nature itself."*
>>>
>>> Perhaps lawyers and insurers love to label the horrors of nature which
>>> plague humans "acts of God" whereas the man in the street would rather
>>> label them "acts of the Devil".
>>>
>>> He does not stop there.  More words of inscrutable supreme aery-fairy
>>> wisdom:-
>>>
>>> *"The meaning of the word spirit is air."*
>>>
>>>
>>> Which dictionary he got that meaning from he does not reveal.  So God is
>>> air, so are all the devas,
>>> the yakshas, gandarvas, kinnaras, vishvadevas, pithrus, apsaras,
>>> yama-dutas, nava-grahams, devils, angels, archangels, shaitans, bhoothams,
>>> prethams, pisaachas, brahma-raakshathas, shaakinis, daakinis, and the whole
>>> heavenly and hellish hosts that are said to plague mankind?
>>>
>>> * "Natural has become the super natural today because of the destruction
>>> of nature."*
>>>
>>> In other words, rocks and stones and trees which "roll round in Earth's
>>> diurnal course" as the English poet once sang, have all become supernatural
>>> spirits and pure air which we, and the plants, trees, grasses, animals,
>>> birds, bees, insects, snakes, and worms, breathe till we die (and merge
>>> with nature?).
>>>
>>> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 9:42 PM Markendeya Yeddanapudi <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> *Mar**Ecology and God*
>>>>
>>>> *When nature is given complete freedom, when the flora and fauna are
>>>> allowed to fully bloom, then, Theism or the belief in the unseen or outside
>>>> the visible spectrum or simply belief in God, will be the natural outcome.
>>>> In fact God must be made an important chapter in the subject of Ecology.
>>>> The idea of God happens or gets created by nature itself. All primitive
>>>> societies, which live with nature symbiotically, have some God or the
>>>> invisible signals from nature in daily life. Nature speaks to them; they
>>>> find deeper meanings in rains, thunder, floods, earth quakes, the bright
>>>> sun..., developing a holistic feeling, free from the 3D logic.
>>>> Unfortunately the same 3D logic is employed in the science of ecology. *
>>>>
>>>> *Life forms depend on each other not only for food, but there is a big
>>>> invisible communication and invisible interaction among them, through
>>>> smell. The meaning of the word spirit is air. There was a time when the
>>>> human organism depended mainly on the sense of smell to perceive, interact
>>>> and live. In fact when the environment was not destroyed, there was
>>>> symbiotic communication among the entire organisms of the biosphere by
>>>> means of smell or spirit. That smell for perception was identified as God.
>>>> Only after the destruction of nature, the role of smell and as a result
>>>> belief in God diminished. Those  diminishing sensations were designated as
>>>> God. God cannot be eliminated or logiced away, if nature is not disturbed.*
>>>>
>>>> *But when nature is destroyed, the idea of God also gets destroyed.
>>>> People cannot feel nature and so they cannot feel God. Then belief becomes
>>>> a subject of debate, mechanical logic, subject to mathematical
>>>> reductionism, and a Richard Dawkins writes ‘The God Delusion’. God and
>>>> economic life in industrialized societies cannot co-exist. One has to
>>>> labour to keep the illusion of belief in God, by all sorts of rituals,
>>>> practices, in fact shut away all reasoning, to believe that one believes in
>>>> God. The VIBGYOR logic that shuts away the major portion of reality simply
>>>> is not capable of understanding the concept of God. Scientists like
>>>> Dawkins, base their arguments on the logic of the machine, and machines
>>>> come into the picture because nature is destroyed. Nature creates feelings
>>>> because of its impact on the organism and that totality of feelings is
>>>> called God. The destruction of nature and Atheism go together. But atheism
>>>> that only opposes empty ritualism is different from the atheism that pits
>>>> itself only against the God cults of religions. The monopoly claims of
>>>> religions for the God idea need to be removed. God is simply part of
>>>> ecology. The claims to particular Gods by the religions are mainly economic
>>>> and very little of spirituality.*
>>>>
>>>> *Unfortunately all life sciences are based on the logic of the
>>>> machines. One does not study life forms as living entities in emotional
>>>> interaction. The God content in the life forms is getting removed.*
>>>>
>>>> *Every organism
>>>> breathes,smells,senses,perceives,understands,communicates,interacts,harmonizes,coordinates,cooperates,raptures
>>>> in symbiosis. In lush nature, as every organism cooperates automatically,
>>>> ‘want and want satisfaction’, happen automatically. *
>>>>
>>>> *That natural has become the super natural today because of the
>>>> destruction of nature.*
>>>>
>>>> *YM*
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