Pranam Q5 Is it relevant and correct to state that the manu smrithi has no relevance to today? Smrithi has many things of life one has to lead including the Governance, rather, all the purushartha in Vedas; the constitution of India and the laws are made only out of Manu, Yajnavalkya and Artha sastra. Without reading in depth, answering through someone's mind of useless procurement is ignorance; and it is a bliss. Q6 Again another good for nothing tying the bald head with the kneecap. If there is any evidence of IG was talking with the Paramacharyal let it be authenticated; any one can see the KiNG bit whether KING would see is the relevance; so too here; IG sat for quite sometime and rose and went off; widow is not a taboo in sastra or for a sanyasi; the cult advocated if not followed they are denied the theertham through HIS hands. Even when muhurtha patrika is presented in an improper ways addressed, they are forsaken by HIM; as a sanyasi he has no favoritism; as a mutt head HE had restrictions; and mother is a mother whether a widow or not and ADI SHANKARA did Mathru panchakam after vthe karma which was produced yesterday in these columns. Thamaso ma jothirgamaya. Q6,7 and 8: Vidhavā (विधवा).—A woman whose husband is dead. In ancient India, it was ordained how a widow should live. It was allowed for a widow to get a son by her younger brother-in law to continue the family line in case the death of her husband occurred before the couple had children. The procedure about this is given in Manusmṛti, Chapter 9. Widow is not an ugly thing to be detested. As a widow is also a widower who has no wife. So all the ceremonies of insulting the womanhood arose later, by the vested interest jihadi Brahmins of remote villages, enamoured of pretentions of the Veda.
2 Vidhavā (विधवा).—[*vigato dhavo yasyāḥ sā*] A widow. VI Is a private life and dhava is her husband; she wishes to lead a private life so she is; and nothing more nothing less; women were endowed with enormous powers to make and live her life, so few villains were perverts, introduced a shaving the head, wearing a naarpattu etc which act was considered by the Mutt heads ,not only Kanchi, to stay off them. But never were they insulted by the sanyasis. Vedas stand testimony for remarriage, bearing children for vamsa vridhi etc. 3 या पत्या वा परित्यक्ता विधवा वा स्वयेच्छया । उत्पादयेत् पुनर्भूत्वा स पौनर्भव उच्यते ॥ १७५ ॥Chap 23 sub 9 verse 175 Manusmrithi *yā patyā vā parityaktā vidhavā vā svayecchayā* | *utpādayet punarbhūtvā sa paunarbhava ucyate* || 175 || If a woman abandoned by her husband, or a widow, of her own accord, marries again and bears a son, that son is called ‘the son of a re-married woman.’—(175)(PUNARBHAVA). 4 Remarriage is not prohibited as seen by so many smritis extolling the marriage a name given as seen under: *Baudhāyana* (2.3.27).—‘He is called the *Paunarbhava* son who is born of a remarried woman;—*i.e*., of one who having left an impotent man, has taken a second husband.’ *Vaśiṣṭha* (17.18-20).—‘The fourth is the *Paunarbhava*, one born of a *Punarbhū* woman; that woman is called *Punarbhū* who, leaving the husband of her youth, and having lived with others, re-enters his family; and she is called *remarried* who, leaving an impotent, outcast or mad husband,—after his death,—takes another lord.’ *Viṣṇu* (15.7-9).—‘The *son of the re-married woman* is the fourth;—she who, being still a virgin, is married a second time is called the *re-married* woman.—She also is called *remarried* who, though not legally married more than once, has lived with another man before her lawful marriage.’ *Yājñavalkya* (2.130).—‘That son is called *Paunarbhava* who is born of a woman married again, either after losing her virginity or before it.’ *Kātyāyana* (Vivādaratnākara, p. 564).—‘If a woman, after forsaking her impotent or outcast husband, takes another lord,—the son born from her is called *Paunarbhava*; and he belongs clearly to his begetter.’ *Arthaśāstra* (p. 41).—‘The son of the woman married again, is called *Paunarbhava*.’ 5 The same rule does apply to widower also who are also named as a specific word in all languages including Tamil. Lets not insult a mutt ignorantly. KR IRS 9322 On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 at 20:59, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 < [email protected]> wrote: > QUESTION ANSWER DIVINE 03-2022-08 > > Dear friends, > > These are information compiled as QA by me in 1998’s-2004’s and stored in > my computer. They are posted by *very learnt members*. > > *BEING COMPILATION THERE MAY BE ERRORS.* > > Sincerely, > > *R. Gopalakrishnan, 78, dated 08-03-2022* > > > > Q1 Is it correct that Ganga is born from Brahma’s kamandalu? > > > > A1 *One story states that* the sacred water in Brahma's Kamandalu > (water-vessel) is personified as a maiden, Ganga > > > > Q2 What is the legend behind Patteeswaram temple? > > > > A2 Patteeswaram got its name as, Patti, daughter (calf) of sacred cow > Kamadhenu worshipped here. According to legend, Parasakthi wanted to > perform Thapas and was trying to locate a peaceful place. She found this > place and started her Thapas. > > > > Knowing this, *Kamadhenu, sent her daughter to be of help to Parasakthi > during the Thapas*. Lord Shiva, pleased with the Devi’s Thapas gave > Dharshan to her here and assumed the name, Gabardeeswarar. > > > > On seeing this, Patti who was helping Devi for her Thapas, also installed > a Shiva Linga and started worshipping Lord Shiva here. Lord Shiva was > pleased with her worship and blessed Patti here and hence the place got > named after Patti as Patteeswaram. > > > > Patteeswaram is located near *Pazhaiyaarai where Raja Raja Chola was born > and brought up. * > > > > It is said that the Cholas before taking any decision or before any > battle, worshipped Goddess Durga here and proceeded. > > > > *It is also said that Sage Viswamithra, got enlightened with Gayathri > Mantra in this place* and was conferred with the title “Brahma Rishi” by > Saint Vasishta. > > > > Q3 What are the special attributes of Sholingur Lekshmi Narasimhar > temple? > > > > A3 Sholingar, also known as Sholasingapuram or Sholingapuramis situated in > the Chennai-Bangalore railway line, 23 kms from Valajapet and 37 kms > from Arkonam. It can be reached by bus from Tiruttani, Chittoor, Vellore > and Tiruvellore. The temple is 12 kms away from the Sholingar station. > > > > The sanctum sanctorum of the Prime Deity is atop of a hillock called > Kadikachalam which is about 750 feet high with 1300 steps. *The > lion-faced Yoga Nrsimhar, in the yoga-sitting posture is facing east.* > > > > Sholingar has a traditional name ‘Thirukadikai’. The belief is that to > stay at least one ‘kadikai’ (about 24 minutes) in this place, sanctions > ‘moksa’ or Liberation from the cycles of birth and death. > > > > *The legend says that the Sage Viswamithra stayed and worshipped in > this place for a ‘kadikai’ and received the status of ‘Brahmarishi’.* > > > > Sri Adi Sankara has composed a stotra with 17 stanzas celebrating Sri > Lakshmi Nrsimha, (the Lord with His Spouse Lakshmi), called the *Lakshmi > Nrsimha Karavalamba Stotram. * > > > > The stotram is called so because each of the stanza ends with a refrain > ‘Lakshmi Nrsimha mama dehi karavalambam’ meaning ,*’O Lord Lakshmi > Nrsimha, please lend me your helping hand’. * > > > > The Lord continues to give a helping hand even today when devotees offer > their special prayers to get rid of their mental agony and physical > pain, loss in business, conjugal problems and so on. > > > > Q4 Do bathing in the river Ganga give salvation? > > > > A4 It is believed that bathing in the river Ganga causes the remission of > sins and facilitates the attainment of salvation or nirvana. This > deep-rooted truth is proved by the fact that people travel from distant > places to immerse the ashes of their kin in the waters of the Ganga at > Varanasi or other places located on the banks of this holy river. > > Some of these sacred places, located on the Ganga, are Varanasi, Haridwar > and Prayag (Allahabad).Jawaharlal Nehru, First Prime Minister of India, > born in Allahabad on the Ganges. > > Q5 Do we have followed any other smriti other than Manu smriti? > > A5 Manu smriti has no relevance for the present generation of Hindus. > Similarly many other law givers have codified at varous times. Apart from > Manu smriti, Yagnavalkya smriti and , Parasara smriti were followed at > different periods. > > Q6 If Adi Shankara could face his widowed mother is there a reason why > the Pontiffs of the madams that Sri Shankara established would think & act > differently? Why and how did Kanchi Periyaval agree to not only see Mrs. > Indira Gandhi but also had a long chat with her and blessed her? > > The head of a mutt established as sharada mutt to worship the feminine as > divine could have set an example of seeing the mother in every woman. Could > he not see that? > > A6 To the best of my knowledge, the mahaperiyavaa did grant darshan to > widows who had shaved off their heads and covered their head with saree. It > is only women who did not follow this tradition of shaving off the head > were not allowed to have darshan of the paramacharya. > > There is no rule that Dasanami Sannyasis should not see widows. My Guru > who was a sannyasi (Tamil Brahmin and a Saraswathi) never objected to any > widow seeing him. > > The dress code is practiced by the Pontiffs of the two Sankara madams in > the south. But it affects only Brahmin widows. > > Kanchi peiyava is viewed as the avatar of Shiva Himself. So, perhaps He > was not the right person to look up for changes in the customs of the > society. > > Q7 Do Vaishnavas were not in favour of tonsure on becoming widow a woman? > > A7 Initially Vaishnavas were not in favour of tonsure, but the practice > spread later on... > > I have been to Dasavathara Sannidhi in Srirangam, where Azhagiyasingar > (one of the Jeers) performs daily pooja himself... and I remember widowed > old paatis coming to the temple for the daily "thathi annam" or curd-rice > prasadam... (readers correct me here, if am wrong). > > Q8 Can you tell about different concepts about widows in earlier > periods? > > A8.Vyasa:- > > When her husband dies a woman becomes a widow. *If she strictly follows > the duties of a widow, she can attain comfort with her husband in the next > world.* > > Widows should cut their hair.. *If she ties her hair, her husband in > heaven will suffer.* She should take meals only once. She should not use > scents. She could offer oblations to her husband daily using Gingelly and > Durba grass. > > She should worship Lord Vishnu daily. She should imagine that her husband > is Vishnu. A widow who observes all this would live comfortably. Based on > the above, if a widow does not cut her hair, then it is a sin as her > husband, if in heaven, would suffer... (forget about hell... as he would be > suffering anyway). *So, perhaps the widow who has not removed her hair is > a sinner in the above context...* Maybe the reason why the acharya > refused to see widows... or fasted if he saw one? > > He was against men having western style cropped hair style and wanted all > to sport tuft (kudumi), stating that as per shastras after bath squeezing > the water out of the tuft to the earth quenches the Pithrukal's (Departed > souls from the family) thirst (in Whichever Loka they are) and by not > having a tuft we are not quenching their tuft. > > with respect to Sumangali women instead of men, when as a young boy, I queried > her as to the way she looked different to other ladies. She said as she is > not a Sumangali but a widow, the water from her hair falling on earth will > increase their thirst (like drinking salt water). Hence she had tonsured > her head. > > Shri Ramanujacharya was initiated into the mysteries of the Ashtakshari > Mantra (OM NAMO NARAAYANAYA!!) by Goshti Purnacharya '. At the time of the > upadesa the Guru told him that the Mantra is very powerful and is capable > of breaking loose the fetters of Karma of any individual who chants the > Mantra. The Guru also wrested a promise from him that he would not reveal > the import of the Mantra indiscreetly to all and sundry. He also threatened > Ramanuja that in case he broke his promise he would go to hell. > > The next day Ramanuja collected all the people of the village before the > village temple and preached to them the hidden meaning of the Mantra. > Goshtispurnacharya came to know of this and Ramanuja was informed of the > impending consequences of this impudence. Ramanuja replied thus: " having > learnt the secrets of the Mantra all of these people will attain Moksha > after this birth - what if I alone go to hell in the process." > > The Guru was so impressed by this logic that he not only pardoned Ramanuja > but also actually acknowledged to be his real Guru. > > Despite shri Ramunaachaaryal's superlative explana -tion, Vaishnavas have > many sub-divisions or sub-sects like smartas=which proves diverse opinion > with a set of logic, can create n-number of schools based on certain > parameters of darshanas > > Adi Sankara organized the Dasanami sampradaya (organized, not founded) and > established four mathas - at Sringeri, Puri, Dwaraka and Jyotirmath. It can > be said that smartaism became derived or was based on the older dasanami > tradition. > > See after taking VOWS Bheesmaacharyar took several precaution to gaurd the > vow, like not talking to a woman in privacy, sleeping in a mat, taking only > porridge etc... > > Infact Aacharams are designed as a gaurd for vows. Bheeshma was raised to > be a king... and hence he lived his life as a kshatriya... due to > necessity, he took the vow of brahmacharya... that is not equal to > sanyasam... > > In Shrimad Bhagavat Geeta - Lord Krishna defines - Tamo Guna as the one > which sees the TRUTH in inverted fashion. So far one afflicted by Tamo > Gunam - A wrong becomes Right and a Right becomes Wrong. > > I do not think anyone can find sanyasa vows and details of their various > ceremonies documented anywhere, either books or online. Because they are > under a vow to maintain secrecy. But you can meet sanyasis and get a fair > picture. I have met sanyasis of the swami order. It is true that they > regard all women as divine mother. Just go to the Ramakrishna Mission and > ask any swami there for a basic idea. > > Adi Shankara was seeing Sarada Devi in every woman. Sarasavani or ubhaya > bharathi was travelling with him and his group doing the cooking for them. > Nobody's > sanyasam comes under danger because of a woman - married, widow, young or > old . > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "iyer123" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/401130832.854081.1646753388581%40mail.yahoo.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/401130832.854081.1646753388581%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. 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