Pranam
Q1 RAMA AND MUKTHI
Rama revealed in places of Ramayana written by Valmiki indirectly
that He is an AVATRAM. However HE never accepted that and rendered a walk
only as ordinary mortal, unlike Krishna. However many right from Rishis to
ordinary dhobi in the last rank, knew WHO IS HE? Mukti was given to
whosoever asked treating HIM as GOD. Sages including Agastya need not ask
RAMA, as everyone knew the ParaBrahmam; hence by being with HIM all
reached the normal Mukti. This is narrated in the Ramayanam as under which
showed how many in Ayodhya and SARAYU river ended life along with HIM.
After Bhagavān Śrī Rāma decided to leave the earth, He asked his
people to disseminate everywhere the news of his desire to depart from
earth very soon, then innumerable Jiva-s came from all over earth in
Ayodhya to follow Śrī Rāma. Para-bhakti, the supreme devotion which is
rarest to be achieved, appeared in those all souls, and They all happily
left all desires to live anymore on earth without Śrī Rāma’s presence. That
Sweetest Lord was so much loved by all, and by even creepers, plants, &
trees; these immobile-beings present in Ayodhyā also got the mobility at
the time of final-departure of Śrī Rāma. All creatures whether humans or
demons, birds or beasts, trees or even smallest straws, etc on earth
present in Ayodhyā Ji, all followed Śrī Rāma so happily. All Jiva-s entered
in Sarayu river to take a sacred dip and discard their body (made of
Sthula-deha, Linga-deha and Karan-deha), and by the touch of the divine
water of Sarayu river, those all Jivas left their bodies without any
mortal-pain and immediately received divine-bodies. Thereafter, Bhagavān
Śrī Rāma lodged those most fortunate souls, from an ant even to a straw, in
the supreme abode of brahman is called brahm-loka or divine Ayodhya -- So,
all Vaishnava-s should aspire to do the Sevan of river Sarayu as much as
possible, take a dip into her at least once.
यथा सर्वावताराणामवतारी रघूत्तमः ।
तथा स्त्रोतसां सौम्या पाविनी सरयू सरित ॥
(अगस्त्य-संहिता )
“As like Bhagavan Śrī Rāma, the best among Raghus, is the Avatari-Purusha
of all Avatara-s, similarly among divine rivers Sarayu is the most sacred
river.” (Agastya-Samhita)
2 Chandogya upanishad in chap 5 verse 1 and 2 states that sages can
reach normally the light world. So there is no necessity of Rfama
offering anything at all.
तद्य इत्थं विदुः। ये चेमेऽरण्ये श्रद्धा तप इत्युपासते
तेऽर्चिषमभिसंभवन्त्यर्चिषोऽहरह्न
आपूर्यमाणपक्षमापूर्यमाणपक्षाद्यान्षडुदङ्ङेति मासांस्तान् ॥ ५.१०.१ ॥
मासेभ्यः संवत्सरं संवत्सरादादित्यमादित्याच्चन्द्रमसं चन्द्रमसो विद्युतं
तत्पुरुषोऽमानवः स एनान्ब्रह्म गमयत्येष देवयानः पन्था इति ॥ ५.१०.२ ॥
tadya itthaṃ viduḥ| ye ceme'raṇye śraddhā tapa ityupāsate
te'rciṣamabhisaṃbhavantyarciṣo'harahna
āpūryamāṇapakṣamāpūryamāṇapakṣādyānṣaḍudaṅṅeti māsāṃstān || 5.10.1 ||
māsebhyaḥ saṃvatsaraṃ saṃvatsarādādityamādityāccandramasaṃ candramaso
vidyutaṃ tatpuruṣo'mānavaḥ sa enānbrahma gamayatyeṣa devayānaḥ panthā iti
|| 5.10.2 ||
1-2. Those who know this *[about the five fires], ( Panchagni in q4)*and
those who live in the forest practising austerities with faith—they go
after death to the world of light. From the world of light they go to the
world of day; from the world of day to the world of the bright fortnight;
from the world of the bright fortnight to the six months when the sun moves
northward; from there they go to the year; from the year to the sun; from
the sun to the moon; and from the moon to lightning. There someone, not
human, receives them and leads them to brahmaloka
<https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/brahmaloka#hinduism>. This is the
path of the gods.
3 अथ य इमे ग्राम इष्टापूर्ते दत्तमित्युपासते ते धूममभिसंभवन्ति
धूमाद्रात्रिं रात्रेरपरपक्षमपरपक्षाद्यान्षड्दक्षिणैति मासांस्तान्नैते
संवत्सरमभिप्राप्नुवन्ति ॥ ५.१०.३ ॥
atha ya ime grāma iṣṭāpūrte dattamityupāsate te dhūmamabhisaṃbhavanti
dhūmādrātriṃ rātreraparapakṣamaparapakṣādyānṣaḍdakṣiṇaiti māsāṃstānnaite
saṃvatsaramabhiprāpnuvanti || 5.10.3 ||
3. On the other hand, those who live in the village and perform acts of
public service, charity, and so on, attain the world of smoke. From there
they go to the world of the night; from night they go to the world of the
dark fortnight; and from the dark fortnight they go to the world of the six
months when the sun moves to the south. This means that they never attain
the world of the year.
तद्य इह रमणीयचरणा अभ्याशो ह यत्ते रमणीयां योनिमापद्येरन्ब्राह्मणयोनिं वा
क्षत्रिययोनिं वा वैश्ययोनिं वाथ य इह कपूयचरणा अभ्याशो ह यत्ते कपूयां
योनिमापद्येरञ्श्वयोनिं वा सूकरयोनिं वा चण्डालयोनिं वा ॥ ५.१०.७ ॥
tadya iha ramaṇīyacaraṇā abhyāśo ha yatte ramaṇīyāṃ
yonimāpadyeranbrāhmaṇayoniṃ vā kṣatriyayoniṃ vā vaiśyayoniṃ vātha ya iha
kapūyacaraṇā abhyāśo ha yatte kapūyāṃ yonimāpadyerañśvayoniṃ vā sūkarayoniṃ
vā caṇḍālayoniṃ vā || 5.10.7 ||
7. Among them, those who did good work in this world [in their past life]
attain a good birth accordingly. They are born as a brāhmin, a kṣatriya
<https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/kshatriya#hinduism>, or a vaiśya
<https://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/vaishya#hinduism>. But those who did
bad work in this world [in their past life] attain a bad birth accordingly,
being born as a dog, a pig, or as a casteless person.
स्तेनो हिरण्यस्य सुरां पिबंश्च गुरोस्तल्पमावसन्ब्रह्महा चैते पतन्ति चत्वारः
पञ्चमश्चाचरंस्तैरिति ॥ ५.१०.९ ॥
steno hiraṇyasya surāṃ pibaṃśca gurostalpamāvasanbrahmahā caite patanti
catvāraḥ pañcamaścācaraṃstairiti || 5.10.9 ||
9. A person who steals gold, or drinks liquor, or goes to bed with his
teacher’s wife, or kills a brāhmin—these four are lost. Also lost is the
fifth—one who keeps company with such people.
4 Thus the RAMA giving mukti is widely discussed as to why?. KR IRS
26722
On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 at 12:24, 'gopala krishnan' via Thatha_Patty <
[email protected]> wrote:
> *Ques answ divine 07-2021-01*
>
> Dear friends,
>
> These are QA stored in my memory device very earlier and found interesting
> and posting now. The person answered is Mr Datta in his website. I am not
> sure whether his website exist now.
>
> Gopalakrishnan 26-7-2022
>
>
> * Q1) Why the Lord gave Salvation to Sabari and Hanuman and not to the other
> sages?*
>
> A1) The Lord is impressed by the spiritual values only and not by
> Nationality, religion, caste, age, sex etc. The real spiritual value is only
> sacrifice.
>
> The sages were having the external spiritual dress like long beard, hair
> style, leather of the deer, danda, kamandalu, fire alter, darbha etc. Their
> voice was always occupied by chanting Vedic hymns, mantras etc. Neither the
> dress nor their words can impress the Lord. *They were living in the forests
> along with their families and were having family bonds**.* Their detachment
> from family bonds and sacrifice for the sake of Lord are their qualification
> certificates and the interview performance, which are responsible for their
> selection.
>
> The blind love (Moha) forms several bonds with family members. All those
> bonds should be crushed and with the resulting Moha, only one bond with Lord
> should be formed.
>
> The first step is Moksha and the second step is Kaivalya. *Sabari and Hanuman
> were excellent in both these spiritual values and so were given salvation.*
> No one can impress the Lord by external dress, the expressed feelings and
> chantings.
>
>
>
> Q2 What are the three types of sacrifices by Gopikas?
>
> A2 The sacrifice is in three steps and thus there were three
> types of Gopikas.
>
> 1) Some thought that they can give butter to their family members instead of
> giving to Krishna.
>
> 2) Some thought that they can give butter to Krishna as long as their family
> members are not aware of it. Once they became aware, they stopped giving to
> Krishna.
>
> 3) Some gave butter to Krishna even if their family members opposed and they
> were prepared to go to any extent in that matter.
>
>
>
> Q3) Can you explain the ‘Pancha Yajnas’ in view of Sadhana?
>
> A3) *The five Yajnas are*:-
>
> 1) Brahma Yajna:- To serve the Lord in Human form who is called Brahma.
>
> 2) Deva Yajna :- To serve the devotees of the Lord.
>
> 3) Pitru Yajna:- To serve the parents and the family members.
>
> 4) Manushya Yajna :- To serve the incapable beggars.
>
> 5) Bhoota Yajna :- To serve harmless animals and birds.
>
> *The service is called Yajna or sacrifice, which consists of two parts*
>
>
> 1. To cook the food and donate it. 2) To give Dakshina i.e., money.
>
> The order of deservingness is given in Veda in the above-mentioned way. The
> most deserving is Brahma or Satguru who is the Lord that comes in human form
> to preach the right knowledge of the scriptures. Veda describes this
> sacrifice to a large extent.
>
> Sacrifice in practice alone pleases the Lord as said in Veda (Tyagenaike
> Amritatvam). Sacrifice or donation is the very meaning of the word Datta.
> Therefore Yajna is the most sacred, which is the real form of the Lord.
>
> *The exact opposite enemy to the sacrifice is Moha (Blind love) which is
> divided into the following:-*
>
> 1) Dareshana, which is the Moha on the wife and this relates to the gross
> body (Sthula Sareera).
>
> 2) Putreshana, which is the Moha on the children and this relates to the mind
> i.e., subtle body (Sukshma Sareera).
>
> 3) Dhaneshana, which is the Moha on money and wealth, which is the root of
> all the bonds and is the
>
> cause body (Karana Sareera).
>
> Vasishtha told that money is the root of this entire world (Dhanamula Midam
> Jagat). Unless these three bodies are destroyed, the eligibility to please
> the Lord is not attained. Sadhana is the constant spiritual effort, which is
> put up to destroy these three bodies. Unless you do not put up the related
> effort toachieve the goal, how can you achieve the goal through unrelated
> efforts.
>
> *To eat meals, you should procure the materials and cook the food. You
> cannot eat the meals by singing songs or by collecting flowers.*
>
> Similarly you cannot please the Lord by praising, meditation, worshipping the
> idols and statues, which are representing Him as models, by going to temples
> etc. *All these efforts are only trying to soap the Lord.* Your exercises and
> gymnastic feats by word and feelings can never please the Lord. All these
> efforts become waste and will not touch the Lord. *Even the logical
> discussions cannot please the Lord. *
>
> Veda says the same (Yato Vacho Nivartante Aprapya Manasasaha, Namethaya).
>
> Some are sacrificing money for the sake of the Lord by lighting the lamps and
> by pouring ghee in fire etc., Such sacrifice is not only a waste but also
> annoying the Lord due to two reasons.
>
> 1) You are burning the money in the inert fire due to your ignorance. The
> fire should be the hunger present in a living being as told in the above
> Pancha Yajnas.
>
> 2) You are doing this sacrifice with selfish desires for yourself or for your
> family. But you should not sacrifice anything to the undeserving which is a
> sin. Instead of doing this sin it is better you enjoy.
>
> *Zero is better than Minus*. Of course to donate to the deserving is the
> best which is Plus. Dharma Raja wanted to leave the kingdom to Kauravas who
> are undeserving. The Lord did not agree to this and encouraged the war. He
> asked Arjuna to conquer the kingdom and enjoy (Bhokshyase Maheen).
>
> Thus He brought them to Zero from Minus. But after conquering the kingdom He
> advised Dharma Raja to perform Aswametha Sacrifice in which the wealth was
> donated to the most deserving sages.
>
> Thus from Zero He brought them to Plus. *Aswametha does not mean killing
> the horse. It means killing the senses, which are the horses as said in Veda
> as well as in Gita (Indriyani Hayanahuhu).*
>
> By killing the senses, one gets detached from the self enjoyment. Veda says
> that your desire must be burnt and not the ghee and your ignorance is to be
> cut and not the animal in a sacrifice (Kama Aajyam, Manyuh Pasuh).
>
>
>
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