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On Wed, 12 Apr 2023 at 03:20, 'gopa4...@yahoo.co.in' via iyer123 <
iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

> Thank you for the response on the point- Obsolescence
> Gopalakrishnan
>
> On Wednesday, 12 April, 2023 at 02:42:11 pm IST, 'N Sekar' via iyer123 <
> iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Sri G K.
>
> Re Q 6: Obsolescence is defined broadly as " Diminution in value, at times
> sudden".
>
> Diminution in value happens when:
>
> The item is no longer useful and fit for the purpose it was intended for
>
> but more importantly
>
> An alternative item / process is developed which can do the same (or
> improved) function / thing more effectively - improved quality, lesser cost
> etc. - like the examples given in the Q&A - film cameras as opposed to the
> digital ones, LED lighting, fuel efficient engines replacing gas guzzlers
> in cars, aircrafts etc.
>
> There is a saying in Tamizh, coined years ago:
>
> " Pazhayana Kazhidalum, Pidhiyana Pukudalum"
>
> *meaning Old* (products / processes / methods / means etc.) *gives way to
> the New*.
>
> This is how Innovation / Evolution takes place - f*or good or bad is
> another question altogether*.
>
> It is mandatory for the CAs, while certifying the Financial Statements, to
> ensure the Entity's assets are not " Obsolete" and are worth the value they
> are assigned in the Balance Sheet; otherwise they have to be assigned only
> scrap value (Net Realizable Value in accounting parlance),  even if they
> are not depreciated fully.  I am just giving the gist without going into
> technical details.
>
> It is scary to see the developments in the IT field particularly, where
> the knowledge you acquired only a few years back becomes obsolete; such is
> the pace of technological development where knowledge / products become
> obsolete more rapidly than in the past. Chat GPT is just the recent
> example. The younger generation has to work harder / smarter and keep pace
> with developments through " Continuous Learning" which is mandatory for
> professional like the CAs, Medical staff and others.
>
> As far as CAs are concerned, we have to do a certain number of hours of
> learning every year and show proof of that to our Institute (ICAI) so we
> can continue to be members of the Institute. The number of hours vary,
> depending on whether you are in Service or Practice. That's why the
> Institute itself organizes Training Courses at various centers so that you
> don't become " Obsolete".
>
> N Sekar
>
>
> On Wednesday, April 12, 2023 at 03:57:52 AM GMT+4, 'gopala krishnan' via
> iyer123 <iyer...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> *CULTURAL QA 04-2023-10*
>
> Q1         Are apes more closely related to monkeys than humans? If so,
> why do we have a common ancestor with monkeys but not with apes (gorillas
> and chimpanzees)?
>
> A1         Claire Jordan, Degree in biology and folklore; programmer,
> shop owner, secretary on newspaper 51m
>
> No - in fact humans are a type of ape. And of course we have common
> ancestors with other apes.
>
> 30mya - Simian primates split into Platyrrhines (called New World monkeys
> although the first one lived in North Africa) and Catarrhines.
>
> 25mya - Catarrhines split into Cercopithecidae (Old World monkeys) and
> Hominoidae (apes).
>
> 15mya - Hominoidae split into Hylobatidae (gibbons and siamangs) and
> Hominidae (great apes).
>
> 11mya - Hominidae split into Ponginae (orangutans) and Homininae.
>
> 8mya - Homininae split into Gorillini (gorillas) and Hominini.
>
>
>
> 7mya - Hominini split into Panina (common chimps and bonobos) and Hominina
> (humans and proto-humans).
>
> Q2         What are some interesting facts about mobile phones?
>
> A2         Akash Bahetra, Former Student Updated 5y
>
> Mobile phones can save your life- Shocked ? Confused ?
>
> Yes !! Mobile phones Can actually sometimes save human's life .
>
> I was just going through the news and i saw a women claiming that her
> iphone saved her life at the Manchester Sucide Bombing Incident.
>
> You can See this post by Steve Bridgett
>
> She Said Her iphone deflected flying shrapnel while she was talking on the
> phone.
>
> This is the picture of the iphone after the incident.
>
> I also Read One More News About Nokia Mobile saving a life of a man in
> afghanistan from a bullet .
>
> Here's the tweet of peter skillman , a Microsoft employee of the team that
> worked on that phone.
>
>
>
> Sometimes Mobile Phones Can do extraordinary things :)
>
> Q3         Can you tell about Desert of Ghost ship conversion?
>
> A3         Kathleen Pennell's Posts,Posted by Jo Mburu  Fri
>
> Desert Of Ghost Ships only 30 years ago, this was home to our planet’s 4th
> largest inland water mass; an ancient sea so vast, *even Alexander the
> Great wrote of his struggles to cross it.*
>
> In the 1960s, the Soviet Union began diverting the Amu Darya and the Syr
> Darya; the two major rivers which supplied the vast majority of water to
> the Aral Sea, in order to irrigate their massive cotton plantation complex.
>
> Q4         The US standard railroad gauge (distance between the rails) is
> 4 feet, 8.5 inches. That's an exceedingly odd number. Why was that gauge
> used?
>
> A4         Emily PalmerApr 1
>
> *Well, because that's the way they built them in England, and English
> engineers designed the first US railroads.* Why did the English build
> them like that?
>
> *Because the first rail lines were built by the same people who built the
> wagon tramways, and that's the gauge they used*. So, why did 'they' use
> that gauge then?
>
> Because the people who built the tramways used the same jigs and tools
> that they had used for building wagons, which used that same wheel spacing.
> Why did the wagons have that particular odd wheel spacing?
>
> Well, if they tried to use any other spacing, the wagon wheels would break
> more often on some of the old, long distance roads in England . You see,
> that's the spacing of the wheel ruts. So who built those old rutted roads?
>
> Imperial Rome built the first long distance roads in Europe (including
> England ) for their legions. Those roads have been used ever since.
>
> And what about the ruts in the roads?
>
> Roman war chariots formed the initial ruts, which everyone else had to
> match or run the risk of destroying their wagon wheels. Since the
> chariots were made for Imperial Rome , they were all alike in the matter of
> wheel spacing. Therefore the United States standard railroad gauge of 4
> feet, 8.5 inches is derived from the original specifications for an
> Imperial Roman war chariot. Bureaucracies live forever.
>
> So the next time you are handed a specification/procedure/process and
> wonder 'What horse's ass came up with this?', you may be exactly right.
> Imperial Roman army chariots were made just wide enough to accommodate the
> rear ends of two war horses. (Two horses' asses.)
>
> Now, the twist to the story:
>
> When you see a Space Shuttle sitting on its launch pad, there are two big
> booster rockets attached to the sides of the main fuel tank. These are
> solid rocket boosters, or SRBs. The SRBs are made by Thiokol at their
> factory in Utah . The engineers who designed the SRBs would have
> preferred to make them a bit fatter, but the SRBs had to be shipped by
> train from the factory to the launch site. The railroad line from the
> factory happens to run through a tunnel in the mountains, and the SRBs had
> to fit through that tunnel. The tunnel is slightly wider than the
> railroad track, and the railroad track, as you now know, is about as wide
> as two horses' behinds.
>
> So, a major Space Shuttle design feature, of what is arguably the world's
> most advanced transportation system, was determined over two thousand years
> ago by the width of a horse's ass.
>
> And you thought being a horse's ass wasn't important? *Ancient horse's
> asses control almost everything.*
>
> Q5         The Great Wall of China took 2,500 years to make. Considering
> the resources and technology available today, how long would it take if the
> wall was made today?
>
> A5         CaiLei, Lives in China (1975–present)Sat
>
> The Great Wall is not a single project, but a series of projects.
>
> Each dynasty in China built its own Great Wall.
>
> *There are Qin Great Wall, Han Great Wall, Tang Great Wall...Ming Great
> Wall, some are expanded on the basis of the original Great Wall, and some
> are newly built.*
>
> The Qin Great Wall is only 1 meter high, it can only stop cavalry, and it
> is mostly built with gravel. Distributed in Gansu, Ningxia Hui Autonomous
> Region, Inner Mongolia Autonomous Region, and even where the Qingchuan
> River enters the sea in North Korea. The Qin Dynasty was from 221 BC to 227
> BC, After all, the construction technology at that time was not very
> developed, and the story of Meng Jiangnu crying and causing the Qin Great
> Wall to collapse is just a fictional rumor;
>
> The Great Wall of Xinjiang in the Tang Dynasty was mostly rammed earth,
> and Xinjiang is arid and has little rain, so the choice of local building
> materials is limited;
>
> The Great Wall of the Ming Dynasty was built with glutinous rice as an
> adhesive and bricks. What you see when traveling in Beijing is usually
> the Great Wall of the Ming Dynasty.
>
> My note- Informative answer for me.
>
> Q6         What is obsolescence, and what are some examples?
>
> A6         Loring Chien, Former Principal Engineer at Fortune 1000
> Company (2002–2016)Mar 31
>
> A Ford model T car is obsolete. At one time it was state of the art and a
> bargain at the price.
>
> But todays cars are faster, safer, more comfortable, more practical. More
> stylish and meet umpteen safety regulations for crash safety, fuel economy,
> lighting, seat belts, airbags, Not to mention things that improve our
> driving experience, GPS, adaptive cruise control lane departure,
> auto-braking and in some cases self driving. Auto parking, TPMS, heated
> seats air conditioning and heating, intermittent and multispeed wipers,
> auto headlights, radio entertainment you name it.
>
> *Not that people don’t ever drive Model T for nostalgia sake, but its no
> longer a daily driver. But its obsolete, can’t meet standards and can’t
> meet expectations for a car anymore.*
>
> When a thing starts to become obsolete, it is in the stage of obsolescence.
> Today, film cameras meet that. They are still used but mainly for
> nostalgia. Incandescent bulbs in obsolescence, you can still buy a few, but
> LEDs have replaced them.
>
> Q7         How can we see diverging sun rays if the sun were really
> 93,000,000 miles away?
>
> A7         Wayne Boyd, Philosopher, published author, science writer. Apr
> 6
>
> These train tracks appear to converge, do they not? It’s called
> perspective.
>
> VP in this image is called the Vanishing Point. Neither the road nor the
> train tracks actually converge into a point. They just look like they do
> because the farther the things are, the smaller they appear.
>
> The Sun is 93 million miles away. All the sun rays point to the sun’s
> disk, 93 million miles away. Although from this position it looks like
> the rays of the Sun are not parallel, they are absolutely parallel. It is
> perspective that makes them appear to converge at a vanishing point.
>
> Q8         What are some of the interesting facts about India?
>
> A8         Angel Singh, Lives in Lucknow, Uttar Pradesh, India
> (2004–present)Updated 1y
>
> 1. Only 3% of Indians pay Income Tax ie. around 40,579,268 (according to
> the population in 2019).
>
> 2. The number of people (ie. around 23 million) travelling on India's
> trains each day is equal to the population of Australia.
>
> *3. India is the 2nd populous country and also the 7th largest country in
> the world.*
>
> 4. India has more over 300,000 mosques.
>
> • Actually there are more mosques in India than any other Islamic country
> on Earth.
>
> 5. There's a village in Maharashtra named Shani Shingnapur that has no
> doors and locks in the houses.• Villagers believed that God Shani, the God
> of Saturn, will punish anyone attempting theft.
>
> ***6. The World's Only Floating Post Office is in Srinagar's Dal Lake in
> India.
>
> • It also has a museum inside and being the Only Floating Post Office in
> the world, makes it a unique piece of architecture.
>
> 7. There's a village named Snapdeal.com Nagar in Muzaffarnagar district in
> Uttar Pradesh.
>
> • It was named so, as the e-commerce website installed 15 hand-pumps in
> the village so the villagers do not have to walk miles to fetch water.
>
> You can see the Snapdeal logo sticked everywhere in the village.
>
> 8. The Indian National Kabbadi Team was the only team to won all the
> Kabbadi World Cups before the game played against Iran in 2020.
>
> 9. Snakes & Ladders was originated in Ancient India.• It was used as a
> part to teach moral instructions and karma in early centuries.
>
> 10. The World's Highest Rail Bridge in being built in Jammu&Kashmir.• *It
> is being constructed at a height of 359 metres from the riverbed of the
> Chenab river and is 1.3km long and 35metres higher than the Eiffel Tower.*
>
> 11. A lake named Lonar Lake in Maharashtra was formed by a meteor 52,000
> years ago.
>
> 12. Mawsynaram is the wettest place on Earth with 11,874mm of rain anually.
>
> 13. India was the first country to produce sugar.
>
> 14. Arithmetic, Geometry, Algebra and Trigonometry originated from India.
>
> First, thankyou for this! It’s my first answer to get so many views and
> upvotes.
>
> Second, for the point 1st point, that value can't be 100% true. Hence,
> it’s a approx value calculated with the population in 2019, Please note
> 2019.
>
> Third, for the 14th point, I know I got wrong in the Algebra part. So I'm
> sorry for that.
>
> My note- If my memory is correct there are floating post offices still in
> Alleppy District in Kerala.
>
> Q9         Do cats know what we are? Do they think we're some kind of big
> cat? Or just a very weird creature giving them food.
>
> A9         All about Cats, Answered by John Holt Jan 31
>
> *When kittens first open their eyes, they don’t perceive us as much more
> than a disembodied hand that interacts with them.*
>
> As they mature they begins to pick up on more complexities of what we are
> and begin to adjust their behavior accordingly. Despite this they
> innately realize we are companions and caregivers, but also a different
> species.
>
> A great example of this is how they communicate with us. *The majority of
> feline to feline communication is based on body language, yet they learn
> fairly quickly our brains don’t work that way and begin meowing for
> specific cues.*
>
> This is my Sadie girl, she has a meow for “food”, one for “getting low on
> water”, one for “get out the toys”, and one for “I want scritches.” She has
> recognized I don’t read feline communication methods as well as another
> cat would and has adjusted her behavior accordingly.
>
> Q10       Which European countries have a good railway network with
> maximum high speed trains, such as French TGV or German ICE, etc.?
>
> A10       Nicholas Stone, Life long interest in trains. Sat
>
> *Four European countries have particularly well developed networks of
> dedicated high speed passenger lines*. All feature running speeds of
> greater than 200 km/h, station passing loops, grade separated junctions and
> advance traffic management systems. Each has their own characteristics. I
> have travelled on all four networks many times.
>
> Italian high speed passenger lines are essentially linear. There is one
> near continuous high speed line from Turin to Salerno - via Milan, Bologna,
> Florence, Rome and Naples. This connects almost all of Italy’s major
> population centres - with buoyant passenger volumes. Consequently, there
> are two operators. State owned Trenitalia offering Le Frecce brand of high
> speed service and the privately owned Nuovo Trasporto Viaggiatori (NTV).
>
> Operating on the high speed Italian rail network, an NTV train with the
> distinctive .Italo branding. On board, there are three travel classes:
> smart, prima and club.
>
> France has a mainly radial high speed network with four routes fanning
> out of Paris. State owned SNCF operates the world famous TGV train with two
> travel products. There’s the full service inOui trains and the budget
> Ouigo. SNCF has a majority stake in the Eurostar-Thalys international high
> seed service, with Paris Gare du Nord departures to London, Brussels,
> Antwerp, Rotterdam, Amsterdam and Cologne.
>
> Spain also has a mainly radial network, centred on Madrid. There are
> several noteworthy features. Dedicated high speed lines are built to the
> 1,435 mm gauge rather than Iberian 1,668 mm gauge. Special trains travel
> over gauge changers at slow speed between the two networks. There is now
> particularly competitive domestic high speed passenger rail market, with
> Iryo receiving special praise.
>
> A high speed Iryo passenger train in Spain. The trains offer three travel
> classes and six fares. The rolling stock is identical to the Italian le
> Freece fleet, reflecting ownership. Iryo is jointly owned by Trenitalia,
> Air Nostrum and Globalvia.
>
> The German high speed network and operations differ significantly from
> the above three. A mixture of upgrade and new build links pairs of cities
> rather than the radial or linear networks elsewhere. The principal operator
> is the state owned Deutsche Bahn’s InterCity Express (ICE) service -
> offering two travel classes and often full dining. Seat reservations are
> not mandatory. These long distance ICE service will use a mix of new build,
> upgrade and classic tracks as they cross Germany.
>
> In my opinion, the German and Italian high speed passenger trains are
> among the best in Europe. Both offer higher standards of passenger comfort
> and dining cars. Part of the Italian high speed through Tuscany, Umbria and
> Lazio is particularly scenic.
>
> *All the above QA are from  Quora  website  on   11-04-2023*
>
> *Quora answers need not be 100% correct answers .*
>
> *Compiled **and posted by R. Gopala Krishnan, 79,  former ITS on
> 12-04-2023*
>
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