G writes "Respected Mr Rajaram, At least when you respond with your points can't you address Mr narayanaswamy as N as you used G for me? However as I learnt PithuKuli was a grand musician, though he was blind. Mr N will have his own points. Let us wait. Because you were addressing improperly your sentence went wrong. *"Of Course our pithukuli as usual will expose his wrong knowledge due to senility"*- You wrote.Is it will expose or *exposed* *KR My dear Gopalakrishnan, *Are you really a man? Aged? Having a balanced sense?. Have you ever written to him, from then till date, to write that way as Naragal is being exposed? Then what right have you got to write in this manner? ever interfere where your mind is partial and imbalanced. PITHUKKULI was not a musician; pithukuli is pithukuli; no one knew pithukuli; Pithukkuli Murugadass was a bhajan singer. As Bangalore Ramani ammal; no one can know if simply called Bangalore. So refrain from being one sided. Both of you started the game. I sent a script to you all long ago. And all my hits are only after you write or naragal write nonsense. Do I have a right to call you Gopalakrishnan 's mother a paratchi? What were you doing then:? Until both regret my repartee will continue. And Naragal only wrote Date fruit which is incorrect; because you never read anything or remember anything, but simply , without understanding ,copy and paste, to show you can also write, such things will not attract your eyes. And he addressed as PARAYA for the word You used as PARA and so he addressed you as Paraya. Go and lick his feet. And you remain silent having read that? You lack many Thank you KR IRS 27523
On Fri, 26 May 2023 at 23:43, gopala krishnan <[email protected]> wrote: > Respected Mr Rajaram, > > At least when you respond with your points can't you address Mr > narayanaswamy as N as you used G for me? > > However as I learnt PithuKuli was a grand musician, though he was blind. > Mr N will have his own points. Let us wait. > > Because you were addressing improperly your sentence went wrong. *"Of > Course our pithukuli as usual will expose his wrong knowledge due to > senility"*- You wrote. > > Is it will expose or > *exposed * > > On Saturday, 27 May, 2023 at 08:52:00 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Yesterday Mr G in Q & A raised a question which had a fair answer. That > answer is right as NO ONE KNOWS WHAT IS THAT FRUIT. Actually many > researchers are trying to find out that paradise and some say they knew it > etc. Of Course our pithukuli as usual will expose his wrong knowledge due > to senility. Today also wrote in Iyer 123 as Dates. People who want to > prostrate can become knowledgeable as they wish. But those who wants to > know the answer from the LIVE SCIENCE: Was the 'forbidden fruit' in the > Garden of Eden really an apple? > > Nobody knows because the Hebrew Bible just says "fruit." > > What's the likely identity of the "forbidden fruit" described in the > Bible's Garden of Eden, which Eve is said to have eaten and then shared > with Adam? > > If your guess is "apple," you're probably wrong. > > The Hebrew Bible doesn't actually specify what type of fruit Adam and Eve > ate. "We don't know what it was. There's no indication it was an apple," > Rabbi Ari Zivotofsky, a professor of brain science at Israel's Bar-Ilan > University, told Live Science. > > The pivotal scene is described in Genesis, the first book of the Hebrew > Bible, shortly after God warns Adam not to eat from the "tree of > knowledge." A serpent in the garden, however, tells Eve to go ahead and > take a bite. > > "When the woman saw that the tree was good for eating and a delight to the > eyes, and that the tree was desirable as a source of wisdom, she took of > its fruit and ate. She also gave some to her husband, and he ate" (Genesis > 3:6), according to the Jewish Publication Society's translation at > Sefaria.org. > > As for the type of fruit, it's described as "just the 'fruit of the > tree,'" Zivotofsky said. "That's all it says. No identification. We don't > know what kind of tree, we don't know what fruit." > > The Hebrew word used in that verse is "peri," a generic word for fruit in > both biblical and modern Hebrew, according to Zivotofsky. The modern Hebrew > word for apple, "tapuach," on the other hand, does not appear anywhere in > Genesis or in the first five books of the Hebrew Bible, Zivotofsky said. > (It does appear in other, later biblical texts.) In biblical times, > "tapuach," was a word for generic fruit. > > So, if the forbidden fruit wasn't an apple, what was it? > > Rabbis commenting on the Hebrew Bible in the Talmud, a collection of > rabbinic teachings and biblical law, and other writings completed by around > A.D. 500, have noted several ideas about the mystery fruit's identity, but > — spoiler alert — apple is not one of them, Zivotofsky said. > > Over the years, rabbis have written that the fruit could have been a fig, > because in the Hebrew Bible, Adam and Eve realized they were naked after > eating from the tree of knowledge, and then used fig leaves to cover > themselves. Or maybe, some rabbis wrote, it was wheat, because the Hebrew > word for wheat, "chitah," is similar to the word for sin, "cheit," > Zivotofsky said. Grapes, or wine made from grapes, are another possibility. > Finally, the rabbis wrote that it might have been a citron, or "etrog" in > Hebrew — a bittersweet, lemon-like fruit used during the Jewish fall > festival of Sukkot, a harvest celebration in which Jews erect temporary > dwellings. > > A citron, also known as an etrog > > The lemon-like citron fruit is called an "etrog" in Hebrew. (Image credit: > edelmar via Getty Images) > > Given all of these potential forbidden fruits, how did apples — which > aren't even from the Middle East, but from Kazakhstan in Central Asia, > according to a 2017 study in the journal Nature Communications — become the > predominant interpretation? > > It turns out this interpretation likely didn't originate in Jewish lore, > Zibotofsky said. "I don't think that within Jewish tradition it ever did > become the apple, meaning in Jewish art, you don't find that," Zivotofsky > said. > > Instead, the possible path from fruit to apple began in Rome in A.D. 382., > when Pope Damasus I asked a scholar named Jerome to translate the Bible > into Latin, according to Encyclopedia Britannica. As part of that project, > Jerome translated the Hebrew "peri" into the Latin "malum," according to > Robert Appelbaum, a professor emeritus of English literature at Uppsala > University in Sweden and the author of "Aguecheek's Beef, Belch's Hiccup, > and Other Gastronomic Interjections" (University of Chicago Press, 2006). > > "The word ["malum"] in Latin translates into a word in English, apple, > which also stood for any fruit ... with a core of seeds in the middle and > flesh around it. But it was a generic term [for fruit] as well," Appelbaum > told Live Science. Apple had this generic meaning until the 17th century, > according to the Online Etymological Dictionary. Jerome likely chose the > word "malum" to mean fruit, because the very same word can also mean evil, > Appelbaum said. So it's a pun, referring to the fruit associated with > humans' first big mistake with a word that also means essentially that. > > Meanwhile, paintings and other artistic recreations of the Garden of Eden > have helped solidify the apple as the forbidden fruit. In art, unlike in > writing, a fruit cannot be purely generic, Appelbaum said. "Artists, more > than writers, had to show something," he said. They didn't always show an > apple: Artistic renderings of the "Fall from Eden" depicted the fruit as a > citron ("Ghent Altarpiece" by Hubert and Jan van Eyck, 1432), as an > apricot ("Eve Tempted By the Serpent" by Defendente Ferrari, 1520-25), and > as a pomegranate ("The Fall of Man" by Peter Paul Rubens, 1628-29), > according to Appelbaum. > > Yet by the 16th century, the apple had also entered the proverbial fruit > bowl. In 1504, an engraving by the German painter Albrecht Dürer and a 1533 > painting by German painter, Lucas Cranach the Elder, depicted the fruit as > an apple, according to NPR. Also according to NPR, in the epic poem > "Paradise Lost," first published in 1667, English poet John Milton uses the > word "apple" twice to refer to the forbidden fruit. > > But was the apple in "Paradise Lost" really the apple that we think of > today, or was it some generic fleshy fruit with seeds in the middle? > There's at least some room for doubt about that, according to Appelbaum. > Milton describes the "apple" once Eve takes a bite, "as being fuzzy on the > outside, and extremely juicy and sweet and ambrosial. All words which are > attached to peaches," Appelbaum said. > > The so-called Franken-tree, a modern grafted tree bearing 40 types of > fruit, didn't exist in biblical times, but if it did, it just might clear > up this mystery. 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