Very interesting! In the topic MYTH by YMji this line was contradicting the truth. *The biggest myth is what is called truth. * KR MYTH: SATYA: Sri Adi Shankaracharya, the great master of Advaita who lived in the early part of the 8th Century said, “Brahma satya jagat mithya, jivo brahmaiva naparah”. It means Brahman (name of the Ultimate Reality) is the only truth, the world is illusory, and there is ultimately no difference between the individual Self and the Brahman.
Mithya means neither true nor false. The world cannot be false because we all clearly see and perceive it. Shankaracharya says that the world is not true either, because it is constantly changing and everything that the world has to offer is temporary, transient and impermanent. That’s why Shankara calls this world as Mithya which means anything in this world can only give temporary happiness and not permanent happiness. We forget the happenings in our dream very quickly. The experience we have in the waking world also we do forget but slowly over the time. This is what is conveyed by the adage “And, this too, shall pass away”. This temporariness, irrelevance, impermanence of everything related to the outer world and the similarity of the experience with the dream world is what made Shankara term the world as neither false nor real, but illusory and need not be given any importance apart from what is required practically to transact. In saying “Jivo brahmaiva naparah”, Shankara is conveying that the realization of the individual Self, Atman, Life Energy in its purest form (without the ego) is nothing but realizing the Brahman, the Almighty Energy. The same opinion is echoed by the ancient Greek aphorism “Know Thyself” which is inscribed in the Temple of Apollo at Delphi. These sayings assert that one learns more by studying oneself (Svadhyaya) by making the mind calm and quiet and directing the single-pointed concentration inwards. For example, the same Shankara’s principles could be very well applied by a professional also to become a better professional and succeed in achieving the desired goals in one’s profession. Viveka means doing the necessary thinking, reasoning and meticulous planning. Vairagya means being dispassionate and disinterested in everything that is not connected with the goal. Shad Sampath is controlling the mind (Sama), controlling the action (Dama), internal dispassion towards distractions (Uparati), enduring the obstacles (Titiksha), believing or having faith and confidence in one’s abilities (Sharaddha) and having complete focus and concentration towards the goal (Samadhana). Finally, the Mumukshatva is having the burning desire to attain the goal. According to me one idea used in one field could very well be used in another field if applicable. Arjuna in the Mahabharata was a warrior by profession. Krishna preaches Advaita through Bhagavad-Gita and does not ask him to run away, rather instills confidence in him to fight the battle valiantly to succeed, but all the time having the clear knowledge and understanding of Advaitic principles. IN ALL RESPECTS THE TRUTH SATYA CANNEVER BE A MYTH. AND MYTH IS A SANSKRIT WORD AND MANY WEST WILL SAY IT CAME FROM GREEK. KR IRS 16623 On Thu, 15 Jun 2023 at 06:53, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < [email protected]> wrote: > > > -- > *Mar**Myth ( Repeat)* > > *Myth is the designation given today in the name of science to every > connecting conceptual base for understanding during the days of absolute > faith in nature and when Theism sprouted as a natural phenomenon of > nature’s symbiosis. There was a time when all organisms smelt, sensed on > the basis of the smells, interacted, in nature in full bloom, creating > rapture. After the poisoning of air, water, land in the name of > development, many a natural phenomenon is designated as myth. Because the > very basis of Theism, the nature’s phenomenon is eliminated by poisoning > the air, the breathe based bio-internet being stifled by the pollution. > After the ascent of the mechanical logic, mathematical reductionism and > insisting on connections as the series of causes and effects, all paradigms > based on Theistic faith are openly or patronisingly discounted. The problem > is, every conceptual base is only an assumption. Imprisoned as we are on a > tiny planet going round a minor star in one of the billions of Galaxies we > are condemned to making assumptions to use them as paradigms to connect to. > Today we know that there can be no firm base to function as a paradigm. > Newtonism which dominated with its metaphor of the machine, and the > techno-logic has been dethroned after the weird glimpses given into the > Microcosm by the quantum physics. Quantum Physics and Relativity Physics > have confined Newtonian Physics to the day today Maya of the confinement to > perceiving through the visible spectrum which is less than one per cent of > the total photon spectrum. Rationalists who have been basking on the > mechanical paradigm today are in bemusement. Quantum physics and Relativity > physics have removed many a paradigmatic base. But they are forced to > search for a new base to connect to.In the Universe of atoms and Particles, > Newton’s laws do not work. Ditto with Relativity Physics or the physics > relating to planets, stars, galaxies etc.* > > *At the quantum level a super positioned wave collapses into a particle > because of the notice by consciousness. So whether the notice is myth > filled, or techno logic filled, superstitious, prejudiced...it still is a > notice and it changes waves into particles. The rationality if any of the > conversion by consciousness of waves into particles is yet to be > unravelled. The adjective scientific is frantically trying to find > convincing meaning, through some TOE—Strings theory, the loop quantum > gravity theory, the M theories and the totally different concept of the > Universe as a Hologram. But they are yet to be synthesized, condemned as > they are to utilise the machines built on the basis of Newtonian mechanics > with which they do not agree. So God is returning with a bang and a famous > Physicist Fritzof Capra has written the book-The Tao of Physics, frankly > admitting that in Physics today they are reinventing eastern mysticism. Ken > Wilber with his ‘Spectrum of Consciousness’, has attempted to put > consciousness itself into another type quantum rays, championing the > Holistic approach—the approach of meditation, yoga etc.Kurt Gödel with his > two incompleteness theorems in mathematics has established the basic > limitations of mathematical reductionism.* > > *The problem is, the Universe is continuously changing. Nothing is > permanent. Truth is ephemeral, very temporary. So a fact at the nano > second, changes into a myth in the next nano second. The biggest myth is > what is called truth. So let us assume a very nice, noble and helping God, > and pray, sing, dance, paint, sculpt, draw...* > > *Every concept of truth becomes History only very fast. Nothing is real. > We have to live in myths only. All science is on the road to be included in > Mythology.* > > *At the very core of basic level, the Einstenian Dictum—that space is > curved, time is curved or that the Space-time is curved, unseats the basic > place of the operation of cause and effect. The curvature of space-time > simply means particles; including photons get attracted to each other, > bumping against each other. As a result you can either know the position of > a particle or its direction of movement but not both. It means that > uncertainty and probability which includes improbability, is the basic > property of nature. It means that there can be no straight line at all and > there will always be curvature only. It means that there can be no isolated > cause and effect, but only clusters of causes and effects. It cuts at the > very root of mathematical reductionism.* > > *We killed the breathe based symbiotic rhythm of all organisms by > poisoning the air. After killing the basis of nature we are left only with > all sorts of bluffs.* > > *YM* > > > > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Thatha_Patty" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CACDCHCLC_x93h8TZmsm7tuYCENOB1hR9dO%2B_efBtKu6C6ANFvg%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CACDCHCLC_x93h8TZmsm7tuYCENOB1hR9dO%2B_efBtKu6C6ANFvg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. 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