Read Para 1 which will show what foolish words of senseless prayogam Narayanasamy does; let's assume that Rig veda was incorporated FROM Taittiriya brahmana which is the allegation of Narayanasamy. If so , Taitriya brahamaana should have preceded the Rig Vedam. But all vedic scholars had assured that the Brahamana is made by our ancestors but veda by Brahmam. So this does not require heavy mental capacity to deduce from. should I write more on his fallacy? K Rajaram IRS 21 9 23
On Thu, 21 Sept 2023 at 09:43, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]> wrote: > Before proceeding to part2 , letall know what type of persons are > Narayanasamy and laxminarayan sarma in the group who write so > nonsensically at 97 and 88? Extracted from iyer 123 > > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Dear folks Far from being offended, I am supremely flattered that, being > absolutely dumbfounded and stuck for words due to his total lack of any > form of education except street-gangster fisticuffs, demented adolescent KR > ex-IRS alias K Rajaram 20923 should word for word copy my original postings > without understanding a single word. Unschooled and illiterate as he is, he > is further ashamed and mortally frustrated that the r'g-vedam, that he > chauvinistically expounds and repeats as the first vedam, is in fact as > much a copycat of the yajur-vedam as he is a mere shallow, hollow > cut-and-paste copycat in almost everything he posts. Let him continue to > bark up the wrong tree, and expose and underline his irremediably tarnished > reputation as an incontrovertible Himalayan ignoramus and shameless > blasphemer and humongous incorrigible liar. > *(And let us see his reaction to my further exposures of r'g-vedam as a > serial copycat of yajur-veda manthrams.) *S Narayanaswamy Iyer > > On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 12:18 AM Laxminarayan Sarma < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> *You SoB, Son of Bachelor, RogeRum , iArsE, you need a kich on your fat >> arse for your stinking diarrhea of abuses. If you are man enough, meet me >> face to face, man to man, and i swear i shall beat the shit out of you. But >> i doubt if you can be a genuine man. ONLY a hijada,- castrated male ...* >> >> On Wed, 20 Sep, 2023, 1:24 pm gopala krishnan, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> *I am sorry.* Mr Narayanaswamy has also used same words. I request >>> both of you to avoid such usage of words >>> Gopalakrishnan' >>> >> > xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Now part 2 > > TB, RV, YV AND VR and Narayanasamy part 2 dt 21 9 23 > > What is Brahamana? The word 'Brahmana' loosely translates to > 'Explanations of sacred knowledge or doctrine. ' It is supposed to have > been derived from the word 'brahman,' implying the brahman priests who have > the knowledge and understanding of the Vedas. It means the explanation of a > ritual learned by priests. Hence Brahamana came much later than the Vedas > or atleast after each veda arose one by one, made by Rishis and purohits > who made out architecture of Homams and leading the pristine life. They > emanated out of the Veda and ritualistic only. > > 2 The Taittirīya Brāhmaṇa (Sanskrit तैत्तिरीयब्राह्मण, meaning > 'Brāhmaṇa of the school of Tittri', abbreviated to 'TB') is a commentary on > the Krishna Yajurveda. Considered by academics to be an appendix or > extension of the Taittirīya Samhita, the first two books (ashṭakas) largely > consist of hymns and Mantras to the Vedic-era Devas, as well as Mythology, > astronomy, and astrology (i.e., the Nakshatras); the third book contains > commentaries and instructions on Vedic sacrificial rites such as the > Purushamedha, Kaukili-Sutramani, Ashvamedha, and Agnicayana, agni-hotram > and Soma yagnam. The Taittirīya Brāhmaṇa (Sanskrit तैत्तिरीयब्राह्मण) can > be loosely translated as 'explanations of the sacred knowledge of the > school of Tittiri’. Brahmana (ब्राह्मण) means 'explanations of sacred > knowledge or doctrine'. According to the Vishnu Purana, Yåska was in turn a > pupil of Vaisampayana. Taittiri is also stated in the Mahabharata to have > attended 'the Yaga [Vedic ritual sacrifice] conducted by Uparicaravasu' > (Dvapara Yuga, before 3000 BCE).'Taittiriya-Brahmana of the Krishna > Yajurveda is nothing but a continuation of the Taittiriya-Samhita [hymns > and mantras], for the Brahmanas were already included in the Samhitas of > the Krishna YajurVeda. > > Shrava states that the 'Taittireeya Brahmana has three ashṭakas > [books]. The first two ashṭakas are named as pārakshudra and agnihotra. > Portions of the third ashṭaka are individually named [i.e. after the > sacrificial rites expounded, etc.]. These three ashṭakas have 28 Paranthaka > [chapters]. Bhaṭṭa Bhāskara, in his commentary names these as prasna. {R L > Kashyap a learned expertise had written the transcriptions of the Brahamana > adopting this Bhaskara batta, as well as Sayana write up, apart from the > Mahadeva sastri and Kapali sastri treatises. } [His] edition published from > Mysore enumerated 78 anuvākas [sections] in the first [ashṭaka], 96 in the > second and 179 in the third ashṭaka, i.e. 353 anuvākas in all’. > > R.L. Kashyap further elaborates while differing from Sharva > slightly, stating that each ashṭaka of the Taittirīya Brāhmaṇa 'is divided > into Prapāṭhakas which are divided into anuvāka-s. Each anuvāka is a long > rhythmic prose passage without any punctuation. Ashṭaka 1 has 8 > Prapāṭhakas, Ashṭaka 2 has 8 Prapāṭhakas, [and] Ashṭaka 3 has 12 > Prapāṭhakas. All these 28 Prapāṭhakas (8+8+12) have 338 anuvākas [15 less > than stated by Shrava]. The name Ashṭaka is given because each main part > has 8 main parts or Prapāṭhaka[s]'. > > Ashṭaka 1: Pārakshudra > > Prapāṭhaka 1: Explanation for the establishment of Agni > > Prapāṭhaka 2: (Devas, chants, Vishuvat, Solstices, Mahavrata, and the > bird-shaped altar) > > Prapāṭhaka 3: Vajapeya Yajna > > Prapāṭhaka 4: Explanation of Soma offerings > > Prapāṭhaka 5: The powers of stars or Nakshatras, rites and Rigveda Mantras > > Prapāṭhaka 6: (Unknown) > > Prapāṭhaka 7: (Unknown) > > Prapāṭhaka 8: (Unknown) > > Ashṭaka 2: Agnihotra > > Prapāṭhaka 1: The Agnihotra Sacrifice > > Prapāṭhaka 2: Dasahotra Sacrifice > > Prapāṭhaka 3: Dasahotra Sacrifices concluded > > Prapāṭhaka 4: Mantras for Subsidiary Sacrifices or Upahomas > > Prapāṭhaka 5: Mantras for Subsidiary Sacrifices or Upahomas (Concluded) > > Prapāṭhaka 6: Kaukila Sautramani or the Sacrifice with Spirituous Liquor > > Prapāṭhaka 7: Ephemeral Sacrifices or Savas > > Prapāṭhaka 8: Sacrifices with especial prayers (Kamya) > > Ashṭaka 3: (Various) > > Prapāṭhaka 1: Sacrifices to the Constellations – Nakshatra Ishti > > Prapāṭhaka 2: Dars'a Ya'ga or Sacrifices meet on the wane of the Moon[ KR > about this only a verse is handled in this group by a member whose > translation , in my opinion, based on the learned who wrote the treatises > as wrong. And adaptations of the verses taken from the Rig Vedam is also > wrongly described as Yajurvedam verses in Rigvedam, which is again > erroneous.] > > Prapāṭhaka 3: Paurnamasa Ishti or Ceremonies to be performed on the full > moon > > Prapāṭhaka 4: On Human sacrifices > > Prapāṭhaka 5: Ishti Sacrifices > > Prapāṭhaka 6: Pa'Shuka Hotra > > Prapāṭhaka 7: Expiations for defects in the performance of ceremonies > > Prapāṭhaka 8: On the operations of the first day of the Asvamedha sacrifice > > Prapāṭhaka 9: On the operations of the second and third days of the horse > sacrifice > > Prapāṭhaka 10: Sa'vitra-Chayana or collection of fire for the adoration of > the sun > > Prapāṭhaka 11: Nachiketa-Chayana, or collection of Nachiketa Fire{KR Vide > also Kathopanishad} > > Prapāṭhaka 12: Cha-tur-hotra and Vaisvasrij ceremonies > > The taitriya brahamana presents a great knowledge of the 28 stars > including the extinct now, ABIJIT, ''stars of the Zodiacal belt had a > particular importance as reflecting and projecting heavenly influences that > the Planets travelling through them energised... The Vedic Nakshatras arose > from a spiritual perception of the cosmos. Nakshatras are the mansions of > the Gods or cosmic powers and of the Rishis or sages. They can also project > negative or anti-divine forces, just as certain planets like Saturn have > well known malefic effects. The term Nakshatra refers to a means (tra) of > worship (naksha) or approach... The Nakshatras dispense the fruits of > karma... For this reason, Vedic rituals and Meditations to the present day > follow the timing of the Nakshatras... [which] are of prime [importance] in > muhurta or electional astrology for determining favourable times for > actions, particularly sacramental or sacred actions like marriage... A > system of 28 lunar mansions [i.e. Nakshatras] was used in the Middle East > and in China as well. But in the West it was all but forgotten by a greater > emphasis on the twelve signs of the Zodiac... Indeed, it could be argued > that the signs arose from the Nakshatras'.The Nakshatras are detailed in > 1.1.2, 1.5.1 (ashṭaka 1); and 3.1.1 and 3.1.2 (ashṭaka 3,). They are listed > below including the deity described: > > Nakshatra Deity or Deva Common Name Name in Astronomy > In early era, Ashwini was not the first star as today; Kritika was the > opening; preponderance of the probability with reference to the AXIS > CHANGES would show that KRITIKA TO ASHWINI TOOK 52000 YEARS. ( THE AGE OF > VEDAS CAN BE MEASURED BY SO MANY FACTORS IN THE VEDAS) > > 1 Kṛttika Agni Alcyone Tauri 15 Anūrādha Mitra Dashubba Scorpii > > 2 Rohiṇi Prajāpati Aldebran Tauri 16 Jyeṣhta Indra Antares Scorpii > > 3 Mrigashira Soma MeissaOrionis17 Mūla Nirṛti Shaula Scorpii > > 4 Ardra Rudra Betelgeuse Orionis 18 Purva Āshāḍha Āpaḥ > Alnasl > > > Sagittarii > > 5 Punarvasu Aditi Pollux Geminor 19 Uttara Āshāḍha > > > > Visvedevaḥ Nunki Sagittarii > > 6 Tishya / Pushya Bṛhaspati Asellus. Aus. Cancri 20 Abhijit > > > Brahma Vega Lyrae > > 7 Āshresa / Aslesa Sarpaḥ Acubens Cancri 21 Shroṇā / > > Sharvana Vishṇu > Altair Aquilae > > 8 Magha Pitaraḥ Regulus Leonis22 Sraviṣhṭha / > > Dhaniṣhṭha Vasavaḥ Rotanev > Delphini > > 9 Purva Phalguni Aryamaṇa Zosma Leonis 23 Shatabhishaja > > > Varuṇa Hydor Aquarii > > 10 Uttara Phalguni Bhaga Danebola Leonis 24 Purva > > > Proṣhṭhapada Aja Ekapād Markeb > Pegasi > > 11 Hasta Savitar Algorab Corvi 25 Uttara Proṣhṭhapada > > Ahirbudhnya > Algenib Pegasi > > 12 Chitra Tvashtar Spica Virginis 26 Revati > Pūshan > > > Revati Piscium > > 13 Svāti / Nishtya Vāyu Arcturus Bootis 27 Ashvayuja > > Ashvinau > Sheratan Arietis > > 14 Vishākha Indragni Zub. el. Ge Libra 28 Apabharaṇī > > Yamarājā > Bharani Arietis > > Xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 21923 > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. 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