yES SIR bOTH good and bad are one only B G KR On Mon, 13 Nov 2023 at 12:57, Markendeya Yeddanapudi < markandeya101...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sir, > Your top brow is beyond my perception.But I do not want God's account to > be debited with economics,the poisoning and pollution of land,water and air > and the crime of the emotional disconnect to nature and converting it into > mechanical and feelings-less mechanical link. > YM > > On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 9:04 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> GOD AND ECONOMY AND NOT GOD vs ECONOMY >> >> KITAVASYA VS Krithavasya >> >> GOD AND THE ECONOMY ARE NOT DIFFERENT. Tirukkural said >> it as ARUL ILLARKKU AVVULAGAMILAI ANGE, PORUL ILLAARKKU IVVUILAGAMILAI// HE >> alone can decide your moksham. Hence Valluvar conditioned that if one needs >> Moksham, then GOD shall bless that one with HIS grace; so too, wealth is >> important to pull yourself on this earth. And hence, the Artha the wealth >> Vishnu symbolises the economy. Earning is a fork; one kitavasya=a gambler >> gambling; another Krithavasya=working hard. Which is good economy and >> which one is bad? Rig vedam speaks about it clearly extolling what is life >> and economy. >> >> Rig Veda 8.77.10 >> >> “The wide-traversing Sun, despatched by you, brings (to the world) all >> these (waters which you create);he brings hundreds of cattle and rice >> boiled in milk; it is Indra who slays the water-stealing boar.” >> >> Commentary by Sāyaṇa: Ṛgveda-bhāṣya >> >> The sun (herecalled Viṣṇu), as the bringer of rain, is said to bring the >> cattle and food which the rain produces; the 'boar'varāha is a person >> nification of the cloud as smitten by Indra's thunderbolt (cf. Nirukta >> 5.4). Taittirīya Saṃhitā6.2.4 relates the legend: the person nified >> sacrifice concealed itself from the gods, and assuming the form ofViṣṇu, >> entered the earth. The gods, streching out their hands, sought in vain to >> lay hold of it; but wherever itturned, Indra, outstripping it, stood in >> front of it. It said to him, 'Who is this that, outstripping me, always >> stands infront of me?' He answered, "I slay in inaccessible plural ces'. >> Then, it said to him, 'You say that you can slay ininaccessible plural >> ces-- if this be so, the boar vāmamoṣa (vāmamuṣa in Caraka Brāhmaṇa) guards >> for theasuras, behind the seven mountains, the wealth which the gods must >> obtain; prove your title by slaying thatboar'. Indra, seizing up a tuft of >> darbha grass, pierced those mountains and slew him. Then he said to >> thesacrifice, 'You said that you could bring out from inaccessible plural >> ces; bring him out from there'. It brought out allthe instrumental uments >> of the sacrifice (i.e. the altar, Soma jars, cupṣ..) and gave them to the >> gods'. The CarakaBrāhmaṇa adds that the boar hid behind twenty-one stone >> cities. The seven mountains are the four dīkṣāsor initiatory rites and the >> three upasads; the boar vāmamoṣa (stealer of precious things) is the person >> nifiedceremony of pressing the Soma; see also RV 1.61.7 >> >> Tirukkural in one shot express the epicwenter of economy; RAIN. >> >> துப்பார்க்குத் துப்பாய துப்பாக்கித் துப்பார்க்குத் >> >> துப்பாய தூஉம் மழை. >> >> உண்பவர்க்குத் தக்க உணவுப் பொருள்களை விளைவித்துத் தருவதோடு, பருகுவோர்க்குத் >> தானும் ஓர் உணவாக இருப்பது மழையாகும். >> >> English Couplet 12: >> >> The rain makes pleasant food for eaters rise; >> >> As food itself, thirst-quenching draught supplies >> >> Couplet Explanation: >> >> Rain produces good food, and is itself food >> >> Transliteration(Tamil to English): >> >> Thuppaarkkuth Thuppaaya Thuppaakkith Thuppaarkkuth >> >> Thuppaaya Thoou Mazhai >> >> And life of a family and God Vishnu represent the economy. >> >> विश्वा॑ । इत् । ता । विष्णुः॑ । आ । अ॒भ॒र॒त् । उ॒रु॒ऽक्र॒मः । >> त्वाऽइ॑षितः । श॒तम् । म॒हि॒षान् । क्षी॒र॒ऽपा॒कम् । ओ॒द॒नम् । व॒रा॒हम् । >> इन्द्रः॑ । ए॒मु॒षम् ॥ >> >> viśvā | it | tā | viṣṇuḥ | ā | abharat | uru-kramaḥ | tvāiṣitaḥ | śatam | >> mahiṣān | kṣīra-pākam | odanam | varāham | indraḥ | emuṣam >> >> Rig Veda 10.34.10 >> >> जाया तप्यते कितवस्य हीना माता पुत्रस्य चरतः क्व स्वित् । ऋणावा >> बिभ्यद्धनमिच्छमानोऽन्येषामस्तमुप नक्तमेति ॥ >> >> jāyā tapyate kitavasya hīnā mātā putrasya carataḥ kva svit | ṛṇāvā >> bibhyad dhanam icchamāno 'nyeṣām astam upa naktam eti || >> >> “The deserted wife of the gamester is afflicted; the mother (grieves) for >> the son wandering wherever helikes; involved in debt, ever in fear, anxious >> for wealth, (the gambler) goes forth by night to the dwellings of others(to >> plural nder).” >> >> Rig Veda 10.34.11 >> >> स्त्रियं दृष्ट्वाय कितवं ततापान्येषां जायां सुकृतं च योनिम् । पूर्वाह्णे >> अश्वान्युयुजे हि बभ्रून्त्सो अग्नेरन्ते वृषलः पपाद ॥ >> >> striyaṃ dṛṣṭvāya kitavaṃ tatāpānyeṣāṃ jāyāṃ sukṛtaṃ ca yonim | pūrvāhṇe >> aśvān yuyuje hi babhrūn so agner ante vṛṣalaḥ papāda || >> >> “The gamester, having observed the happy wife and well-ordered home of >> others, suffers regret; yet inthe forenoon he puts to the tawny steeds, and >> at night the sinner lies down by the fire.” >> >> Rig Veda 10.34.12 >> >> यो वः सेनानीर्महतो गणस्य राजा व्रातस्य प्रथमो बभूव । तस्मै कृणोमि न धना >> रुणध्मि दशाहं प्राचीस्तदृतं वदामि ॥ >> >> yo vaḥ senānīr mahato gaṇasya rājā vrātasya prathamo babhūva | tasmai >> kṛṇomi na dhanā ruṇadhmi daśāham prācīs tad ṛtaṃ vadāmi || >> >> “Dice, I offer salutation to him who has been the genitive ral of your >> great army, the chief lord of your host;I do not provide him with wealth; I >> raise my ten (fingers) to the east; that (which) I speak (is) the truth.” >> >> Commentary by Sāyaṇa: Ṛgveda-bhāṣya >> >> I do notprovide him wealth: na danā ruṇadhmi = I do not withhold my >> wealth; na sampādayāmi >> >> Rig Veda 10.34.13 >> >> अक्षैर्मा दीव्यः कृषिमित्कृषस्व वित्ते रमस्व बहु मन्यमानः । तत्र गावः >> कितव तत्र जाया तन्मे वि चष्टे सवितायमर्यः ॥ >> >> akṣair mā dīvyaḥ kṛṣim it kṛṣasva vitte ramasva bahu manyamānaḥ | tatra >> gāvaḥ kitava tatra jāyā tan me vi caṣṭe savitāyam aryaḥ || >> >> “Giving serious attention (to my advice), plural y not with dice; pursue >> agriculture; delight in wealth (soacquired); there, gambler, are cows; >> there is a wife; so has this (visible) sovereign Savitā declared to me.” >> >> KR IRS 131123 >> >> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >> From: Markendeya Yeddanapudi <markandeya101...@gmail.com> >> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2023 at 07:44 >> Subject: The Age of God-Vs-The Age of the Economist >> To: ggroup <society4servingseni...@googlegroups.com>, thatha patty < >> thatha_patty@googlegroups.com>, <vignanadarshini....@gmail.com>, >> Satyanarayana Kunamneni <ksn...@gmail.com>, <rctatelang...@gmail.com>, >> viswanatham vangapally <viswam.vangapa...@gmail.com>, Rajaram >> Krishnamurthy <keyarinc...@gmail.com>, Ramamurti PV < >> ramu142...@yahoo.co.in>, Rangarajan T.N.C. <tncrangara...@yahoo.com>, >> Kunamneni Satyanarayana <ksn...@yahoo.co.in>, Ramu S < >> peacebl...@gmail.com>, Deepali Hadker <deepalihad...@sterlingengg.com>, >> Krishnamacharyulu Nanduri <nkrishna0...@gmail.com> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> *Mar*The Age of God-Vs-The Age of the Economist >> >> >> >> There was a time, when the human perceived and lived on the basis of >> smelling and sensing. It appears that the human could distinguish among >> 50,000 different smells, identify, act, react and interact. Automatically >> every other organism too must have been smelling, sensing, acting and >> interacting. The lithosphere must be brimming with diverse organisms, >> ranging from bacteria to the whale, all of which must have smell-conversed. >> Every nook and cranny of the lithosphere, Hydrosphere and Troposphere, must >> have been composed and consisted of some organism, giving the smell >> messages. >> >> The totality of the continuous smell messages, as the continuous abstract >> flow of feeling and sensing was the message flow of God. And God was >> everywhere. Air was not inanimate gas, but the manifestations of >> communications from the various life forms, creating the atmospheric >> symbiosis. That God of Biospheric symbiosis from the air, guided all life >> forms. The existence of God simply could not be denied. Atheism was lunacy. >> >> When the human developed the Brain, it began weaving epics, music and >> song and poetry filled epics, as the method of expression of perceptions >> and understanding. In the earlier epics, every >> organism,cat,dog,horse,bull,tiger,lion,monkey or any and every organism, >> fulfilled the roles of characters, giving emotional explanation and not >> today’s Cartesian or mechanical explanation of findings as feelings from >> nature. All those feelings and emotional dimensions of the epics developed >> as hormones entered the cells and every limb and organ functioned as a >> theistic manifestation. Those hormonal communications in every organism >> were smelt and sensed by every other organism, converting the planet earth >> into the Goddess, Gaia. >> >> The presence of God was felt just like any matter, say a chair or table, >> but those chairs and tables spoke. In those days speaking was smelling, >> sensing and exhaling responses, all without editing. There was no lonely >> contemplation. The ‘all seeing and all sensing God’, was real. God was >> Geography as the ‘Theosphere’, along with the Lithosphere, hydrosphere, >> troposphere and the Biosphere. The Theosphere governed and administered all >> the other spheres. Every organism, including the human was bonded and >> directed by the Theosphere. >> >> But the Human refused to be governed by feelings and emotions. He >> developed the sciences and technologies or simply declared war on all >> feelings and emotions, creating the God-less Technology and now the >> God-less Robots. Using the science based on the logic of the emotions-less >> logic of machines, the basic emotional and perception complements of >> nature, every other organism, is enslaved and converted into an economic >> good. >> >> God left the hormones. The basic Theosphere that governed and directed >> every other sphere, the Lithosphere,Hydrosphere,the troposphere and the >> Biosphere,died.Today there is no possibility for Theism. >> >> Sciece killed God. >> >> Now we have machines that perform the functions of every limb making them >> redundant and frozen. We call that non participation in nature, comforts >> and luxuries. >> >> Economics today is the technology, of Robots that are busy freezing every >> limb of man in his ordinary life. The Economists themselves are not even >> human beings. They are Computers and Robots. >> >> The big problem with the human economist is he/she cannot be completely >> mechanical and robotic. Emotions could not be completely eliminated from >> him, in spite of the industrial and urban poisoning, of the air, along with >> land and water, where only Robots can function. >> >> We are fast drifting into the age of the Robot Economist, the pure >> atheist who cannot mechanically conceptualize God, the God of feelings and >> emotions. >> >> YM >> > > > -- > *Mar* > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to thatha_patty+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CAL5XZooappHt7yqg%3DD8d08zM8bG2cOA_s%3DQw%3DECcoUwz5PLHNQ%40mail.gmail.com.
