This Is what I called as "willingness to change"; G will write
repeaTEDLY SAME THING ALSO WRONG DATA AS HIS WILLINGNESS TO CHANGE WAS ON
THE NEGATIVE SIDE ACCORDING TO  SO MANY. But for him that is a good change.
Knowledge is cultivated only by learning from every source, even from
hiding oneself as ekalaivan, but not by shoving to Bin. If G thinks he knew
perfectly, his writing will reflect that; this is not so, hence only
selective reflections on his selective amnesia. There are  minority schools
like Pakistan, who will hurl the bombs and then say, bombs were thrown only
by India. So also a small minority known directly and indirectly as just 4.
Let them have their fun, so all of us may laugh. KR IRS  13124


On Sat, 13 Jan 2024 at 11:44, 'gopala krishnan' via iyer123 <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Respected sirs,
>
> The best way to have mental peace is to either bar Mr Rajaram postings or
> mark his responses to SPAM. I have made the 2nd option. Otherwise  Mr
> Rajaram will not stop responding, disturbing our mental peace.
> Gopalakrishnan
>
>
> On Saturday, 13 January, 2024 at 09:46:11 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>
> SECOND POOR SOUL 98 LAMENTS AS USUAL AS HIS KNOWLEDGE TOO SHALLOW AND ONLY
> A COUPLE BELIEVE HIM AS TOMMY. Where he always finds hit, and does not add
> anything with evidence against or far, can only find known jargons of abuse
> and self-pity. What else you may expect the one \eyed to look like a KING?
> I used to write often, " one who knows' '; exactly the pou should not know
> that they do not know anything, but knows well, they knew all the bad words
> in and out of Lexicon; as Parkinson places it-water fills its own level.
> Shallow level; shallow water. Thank you guys. KR IRS 13124
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: *Narayanaswamy Iyer* <[email protected]>
> Date: Sat, 13 Jan 2024 at 09:19
> Subject: Re: [KeralaIyers] Fwd: [iyer123] CULTURAL QA 12-2023-24
> To: <[email protected]>, iyer <[email protected]>,
> Laxminarayan Sarma <[email protected]>, gopala krishnan <
> [email protected]>
> Cc: Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]>
>
>
> Dear Sri Laxminarayan Sarma
>
> With each manic post in drain-gutter-sewer ungrammatical mis-spelled
> broken English, craven coward and deserter from the army 85-year-old
> iraachaa iraamoo sinks deeper and deeper into his second childhood.
>
> He is now no more than, as Willim Shakespeare puts it laconically in
> "Love's Labour's Lost" when narrating the seven ages of a man's life, "*an
> infant mewling and puking in his nurse's arms*".
>
> All his faculties have deteriorated to such an extent that he has lost all
> his marbles, and can only spew insults, abuses, and more and more lies, all
> of which have been instantly detected and exposed, and he has been publicly
> named and shamed and proven that, like the legendary emperor, he has no
> clothes on, not even a kaupeenam, while he dances nude in the glare of
> spotlights trained on him.
>
> As Shakespeare also points out, as his second childhood advances, Iraachaa
> Iraamoo reaches the seventh and last age, and sinks into "*mere oblivion,
> sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything*."
>
> Unpardoned by God, he falls into the clutches of the Devil, and forever
> languishes in Hell -- in narakam without hope of redemption.
>
> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>
> On Fri, Jan 12, 2024 at 10:25 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> Ppor soul from army Pardon him GOD KR
>
> On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 at 19:49, Laxminarayan Sarma <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> *What puerile, imbecilic counters !!! Stinks of *
>
> *ignorance, arrogance, ego, stulidity and over*
>
> *all condescension.....*
> *.*
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, 25 Dec, 2023, 8:00 am Narayanaswamy Iyer, <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Dear folks
>
> The humongous unlearned, unschooled, uneducated super-ignoramus writes:-
>
> (1)  "*Restaurants of street vendors may be dirty and diseased; but not 3
> star and above."*
>
> Was the tea-stall of Prime Minister Naendra Modi's father "dirty and
> diseased"?
>
> Or, rather,  is the mind and brain of super-idiot K R IRS  24 12 23
> unwashably dirty and incurably diseased?
>
> (2)  "*M**any young women carry a lot of undisclosed diseases and they
> are dangerous even to hold a baby."*
>
> He speaks from personal experience.  His mother is a sex-worker who
> transmitted congenital syphilis to him at birth.
>
> (3)  "*Now latest staple is made easier as reusable clips so seeing is
> made so easier.*
>
> Once you remove a stapled clip, it is deformed.  Therefore it is NOT
> REUSABLE.
>
> (4)  "*W**e have digital signatures and no signature needed so the pen is
> outmoded."*
>
> So, unlearned, unschooled, uneducated, illiterate KR ex-IRS uses his
> finger, thumb, or toe to make the very first "digital signature" which is
> later entered on the computer?  Or a specially designed plastic pencil?
>
> (5)  "*P**eople who eat even in a 7-star hotel are eating only the
> leftovers; business man is only a businessman; if you think you are smart,
> he is the smartest. Hotel food is always dangerous. And what will you do
> when he dips his uncleaned fingers and rubs his nose and brings it from
> inside, even with gloves , in front of you?*"
>
> Even in a "7-star hotel" the waiter might have just gone to the toilet and
> used toilet-paper to wipe himself instead of washing and drying his
> derriere, and washighis hands with soap and water.  So, what is your remedy?
>
> S Narayanaswamy Iyer
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Dec 24, 2023 at 9:38 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> CULTURAL QA 12202324
>
> Q1         Which animals can take down a hippo?
>
> KR          Nile crocodiles, lions, and spotted hyenas are known to prey
> on young hippos. Beyond these, adult hippos are not usually preyed upon by
> other animals due to their aggression and size. Cases where large lion
> prides have successfully preyed on adult hippos have been reported, but it
> is generally rare.
>
> Q2         What are some unwritten social rules everyone should know?
>
> G    Don't keep your bag on the restaurant table. Don't shake your hand
> after washing. You're splashing water on people around! Do clip your hair
> when you're going to a public eating place.
>
> KR       So what; restaurants of street vendors may be dirty and
> diseased; but not 3 star and above.
>
> G   Don't hold money or coins in between your lips. Don't turn pages of
> library books or any public usage books or other's books by licking your
> finger.
>
> KR      many tickets are issued in many foreign countries only like that.
>
> G    Don't kiss a baby. Most of the mothers don't like it and chances that
> you're transmitting infection is high.
>
> KR        American and young preposterous daughter in laws of Indian
> notions; elders know what they are doing; no real elders would harm their
> babies; but many young women carry a lot of undisclosed diseases and they
> are dangerous even to hold a baby.
>
> G     When you send emails to your higher-ups, (people who are not in
> software companies), do call them and tell that you've mailed them.
>
> KR       Then why send emails for persons who do not check their mails;
> better to talk to them.
>
> G    Always staple a paper like this: It helps people turn pages
> easily.(in the corner)
>
> KR       Now latest staple is made easier as reusable clips so seeing is
> made so easier.
>
>
>
> G     Carry a pen wherever you go. If you borrow a pen, make sure you
> return it.
>
> KR     we have digital signatures and no signature needed so the pen is
> outmoded.
>
> G     If you don't know things  just Google it. Don't disturb others for
> petty issues, which can actually be found on internet.
>
> KR      If things can be googled and seen, do not write anything, as
> people will know where to see.
>
> G      But, at the same time, don't act smart when you go to a doctor and
> never give them the attitude that you read this on internet and you know
> it. Of course, you know, but you know only of that particular case, but
> they will know a wide range.
>
> KR       Only idiot doctors will frown; many doctors are careful that
> patients know better; being a doctor in mind is better than being a fool,
> as a goat to be slaughtered.
>
> G    Never log in to your banking apps when you're on public transit.
>
> KR   never logs anything in Public at all; also from cell phones; and any
> instrument without security; have you not read SBI notes?
>
> G    Whenever possible, mix the left over chutneys and sambhars together
> after completing your meal at a hotel. (You know why)
>
> KR   silly
>
> Edit 1: Thank you Hunter Peters for your corrections.
>
> Edit 2: About the sambhar-chutney point: (because many asked me why?)
>
> In case, if you leave the left over curry in the bowl or plate it is
> served on, there are chances they will be used to serve someone else too.
> Which means, your left over is going to some other customer. And you may
> get some other customer's left over. To avoid such things, it's good that
> you mix your left over. Sometimes, these left overs may be mixed to the
> full dish too. But, the least we can do is this. Hope you understood it now.
>
> KR   Even otherwise people who eat even in a 7-star hotel are eating only
> the leftovers; business man is only a businessman; if you think you are
> smart, he is the smartest. Hotel food is always dangerous. And what will
> you do when he dips his uncleaned fingers and rubs his nose and brings it
> from inside, even with gloves , in front of you?
>
> Q3   G      What do you know that most people don’t?
>
> 01.Taste is influenced by colour. Scientists have found that hot chocolate
> tastes better in an orange cup.
>
> KR colourless Uppuma is not tastier?
>
> 02.Some people have a "natural alarm clock" allowing them to awake, when
> they want. This is actually caused by a natural stress hormone.
>
> KR      Bio clock is a system by habit. No stress genome of any kind
> involved.
>
> 03.Depression can cause you to dream up to 3 to 4 times, than you normally
> would.
>
> KR       With depression no one can sleep properly; dreams are totally
> different; please google and find out.
>
> 04.Blind people smile despite never seeing anyone smile before, because
> it's a natural human reaction.
>
> KR    No one can smile unless triggered by emotions.
>
> 05.The human sigh acts as a physiological reset button.
>
> KR   ONLY THAT? SIGH IS SUPPRESSION OUTLET. Even Musical yawning and
> sounds from the throat with some kinds of groaning.
>
> 06.People tend to become silent when angry, in order to prevent an
> argument.
>
> KR     Also when one gets defeated or cornered or blown hats off growls
> like street dogs.
>
> 07.We naturally and unconsciously mimic the non-verbal behaviour of those
> whom we interact.
>
> KR       Only kids and rogues as adults do it. Mimicking is bad.
>
> Q4         What is the ultimate truth of life? How can I experience it?
>
> KR           ULTIMATE TRUTH OF LIFE =SEARCHING AFTER SO MANY DAYS OF
> CONTINUOUS SEARCHES DO MEAN THAT” searching for a black cat in the dark
> room which is not there”. (or else the eyes will show up but it is not
> there yet searching)
>
>
>
> How many Q5s?
>
>
>
> Q5         What are some of the most interesting cases in medicine?
>
> G   (A5         R.K. Shwetabh,D.M. Neonatology Resident at Sanjay Gandhi
> Post Graduate Institute of Medical Sciences (2023–present)2y)
>
> KR          I can take it as a young student doctor narrating an incident;
> but how bad the profession has become may be seen as diagnosis is not made
> by knowledge but by a system, where we are forced to cough up.
>
>           I happened to witness such an incident. Ayoung lady came with
> stomach pain; she was going to the hospital, many days where top doctors
> examined, with lots of lab, X Ray etc etc; these information came naturally
> on that day when I happened to be there; the patient who came with her
> husband , on that day, was in wreathing pain; husband may be 28 to 30
> year-old was shouting to doctor, narrating all the diagnosis by so many
> tests and doctors from specialists to normal and yet could not comfort his
> wife; and the lady doctor who was there , took her inside, and after 15
> minutes both came out, with all smile on the young lady’s face; and the
> lady doctor,  lifted the X ray and showed it to the doctor there; and
> what?; a contraceptive operated upon and kept , was in a wrong position ,
> which was visible in the first x ray taken; but no one asked what is the
> white patch seen in the abdomen; this lady doctor should have felt
> something; she took the patient inside, and when questioned about the
> family planning, she said it her; and when she removed it , young lady
> patient was perfectly alright. So it is not just functional; doctors are
> not good observers.
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> As is said, the ultimate Truth of Life is        " DEATH".   N Sekar
>
> KR       No sir   Life is not death; life is blissful, a rare complimented
> gift given by the creator; so, we make life complicated by abusing others
> and keeping mum out of elation or fear. Nandrum theethum pirar thara
> vaara.  Have you not heard of the Narada story who thought he was the best
> bhakti man?  After all, a poor farmer who worked all day for survival,
> uttered twice -once when woke up, before going to the field and another at
> bed time before retiring to sleep. Narada was ashamed. Wasn't there a
> blissful life there without anything?
>
> K R IRS  24 12 23
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: *'gopala krishnan' via iyer123* <[email protected]>
> Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2023 at 14:51
> Subject: [iyer123] CULTURAL QA 12-2023-24
> To: Patty Thatha <[email protected]>, Iyer <
> [email protected]>, Kerala Iyer <[email protected]>
>
>
> CULTURAL QA 12-2023-24
>
> All the below   QA are from Quora DIGEST to me  on   24-12-2023.
>
> Selected quora answers generally interesting only are included .Still they
> need not be 100% correct answers.
>
> Compiled and posted by R. Gopala Krishnan, 80,  former ITS  on 24-12-2023.
>
> Q1         Which animals can take down a hippo?
>
> A1         Travel Explore Protect, Environmental Activist, Adventurers &
> YouTuber1h
>
> Four animals come to mind as potential threats to hippos, and foremost
> among them are African elephants. African elephants are known to be the
> only species capable of swimming or walking right next to hippos without
> being attacked.
>
> Additionally, humans, while not natural predators, can pose a threat to
> hippos through activities such as hunting, habitat destruction, and
> conflicts over resources.
>
> The only two predators known to take down hippos are the large Nile
> crocodiles, which are known to attack and kill hippos. In some cases,
> crocodiles may target young or weakened hippos.
>
> Lions have also been observed attacking hippos, particularly calves or
> individuals that are sick or injured. However, taking down a healthy adult
> hippo is extremely challenging for lions due to the hippo's size, strength,
> and aggressive nature.
>
> It's important to note that while these examples exist, hippos are
> generally considered one of the most dangerous and aggressive animals in
> Africa. They possess powerful jaws, sharp teeth, and can move surprisingly
> fast on land, making them formidable adversaries. In most cases, hippos
> are at the top of the food chain in their habitats.
>
> Q2         What are some unwritten social rules everyone should know?
>
> A2         Ranjani Rajasekaran, I love to be realistic and practical
> about life Updated 5y
>
> Don't keep your bag on the restaurant table. Don't shake your hand after
> washing. You're splashing water on people around! Do clip your hair when
> you're going to a public eating place.
>
> Don't hold money or coins in between your lips. Don't turn pages of
> library books or any public usage books or other's books by licking your
> finger.
>
> Don't kiss a baby. Most of the mothers don't like it and chances that
> you're transmitting infection is high.
>
> When you send emails to your higher-ups, (people who are not in software
> companies), do call them and tell that you've mailed them.
>
> Always staple a paper like this: It helps people turn pages easily.(in the
> corner)
>
> My note- Stapling, if there are more sheets at three places along side
> make the papers more secured and turning pages is not difficult
>
> Carry a pen wherever you go. If you borrow a pen, make sure you return it.
>
> If you don't know things  just Google it. Don't disturb others for petty
> issues, which can actually be found on internet.
>
> But, at the same time, don't act smart when you go to a doctor and never
> give them the attitude that you read this on internet and you know it. Of
> course, you know, but you know only of that particular case, but they will
> know a wide range.
>
> Never log in to your banking apps when you're on public transit.
>
> Whenever possible, mix the left over chutneys and sambhars together after
> completing your meal at a hotel. (You know why)
>
> Edit 1: Thank you Hunter Peters for your corrections.
>
> Edit 2: About the sambhar-chutney point: (because many asked me why?)
>
> In case, if you leave the left over curry in the bowl or plate it is
> served on, there are chances they will be used to serve someone else too.
> Which means, your left over is going to some other customer. And you may
> get some other customer's left over. To avoid such things, it's good that
> you mix your left over. Sometimes, these left overs may be mixed to the
> full dish too. But, the least we can do is this. Hope you understood it now.
>
> Q3         What do you know that most people don’t?
>
> A3         Dilki Dissanayake, Writer, Psychology Lover and Content Reader
> 2y
>
> 01.Taste is influenced by colour. Scientists have found that hot
> chocolate tastes better in an orange cup.
>
> 02.Some people have a "natural alarm clock" allowing them to awake, when
> they want. This is actually caused by a natural stress hormone.
>
> 03.Depression can cause you to dream up to 3 to 4 times, than you normally
> would.
>
> 04.Blind people smile despite never seeing anyone smile before, because it's
> a natural human reaction.
>
> 05.The human sigh acts as a physiological reset button.
>
> 06.People tend to become silent when angry, in order to prevent an
> argument.
>
> 07.We naturally and unconsciously mimic the non-verbal behaviour of those
> whom we interact.
>
> Q4         What is the ultimate truth of life? How can I experience it?
>
> A4         Anubhav Jain, Written 3 books on Life, living and
> motivation.14h
>
> An old fridge had been in a house for decades, it was more a member of
> the family than anyone else. It saw different generations, weathers, bad
> and good days, struggles and prosperity, stickers, magnets, colors, and
> marks but throughout, it served the family well.
>
> It had to be repaired now often as it grew old. It revived every time
> with the willpower to serve its family.
>
> Slowly, its parts started rusting but it didn't give up on the pain and
> frustration and kept cooling and smiling throughout the day and night.
>
> It was now too old to cool well, but still, it struggled to give its best
> for the family.
>
> The family started cursing it, and slammed the doors in frustration as
> they couldn't afford a new one.
>
> One bright morning the entire family was really happy, they got a
> brand-new fridge. No one even looked at the old fridge that served them
> for decades. They called some strangers who cut the wire, mishandled the
> fridge, and took it away as it kept looking at its home and family with
> unconsolable emotions and teary eyes.
>
> Nobody cared about it now.
>
> While leaving, it saw the new fridge being placed in its place and
> everybody admiring the shining fridge. Start of a new journey.
>
> It was kept in a yard for a while where it stayed silent and depressed
> thinking about its life and missing its home, but then one night, suddenly,
> among tears, it had a smile on its face. “I was not meant to be at home
> forever, I served the family for years, gave my best, my life was worth it,
> and my end isn't bad, it's the way of life to tell us that we all are a
> piece of scrap that was temporarily given power, youth and ability to
> fulfill a purpose, I thank life for giving me a purpose, a life that I
> lived well.”
>
> It wished the best for the new fridge.
>
>  “What I am now is my reality, this is what I am, what I was a great
> opportunity which I will always appreciate.”
>
> It smiled, gracefully accepted its life, and peacefully waited for its
> fate to unfold itself.
>
> We all are a piece of scrap living an opportunity of a life time to serve
> a purpose, appreciate your location de now and accept your fate as your
> truth later.
>
> Q5         Where did the Battle of Panipat take place?
>
> A5         Jitender Kumar,2h
>
> The First Battle of Panipat was fought between the invading forces of
> Babur and the Lodi Empire, which took place on 21 April 1526 in North
> India. It marked the beginning of the Mughal Empire. This was one of the
> earliest battles involving gunpowder firearms and field artillery.
>
> Details
>
> In 1526, the Mughal forces of Babur, the Timurid ruler of Kabulistan,
> defeated the much larger ruling army of Ibrahim Lodi, Sultan of Delhi. The
> battle was fought on 21 April near the small village of Panipat, in the
> present day Indian state of Haryana, an area that has been the site of a
> number of decisive battles for the control of Northern India since the
> twelfth century.
>
> It is estimated that Babur’s forces numbered around 15,000 men and had
> between 20 to 24 pieces of field artillery. Babur estimated Lodi had around
> 100,000 men, though that number included camp followers, while the fighting
> force was around 30,000 to 40,000 men in total, along with at least 1000
> war elephants.
>
> My note- Nostalgic memories of studying about Panipet war 1 and Panipet
> war 2 in middle school comes to me. It is near Haryana is an added
> information. We studied it as Panipet in Punjab, since Haryana state  was
> not formed.
>
> Q5         What are some of the most interesting cases in medicine?
>
> A5         R.K. Shwetabh,D.M. Neonatology Resident at Sanjay Gandhi Post
> Graduate Institute of Medical Sciences (2023–present)2y
>
> Though this is not a rare case but interesting one which I witnessed just
> 1 week back at SCB Medical College.
>
> There was a girl 8yr old admitted with complaints of vomiting(?),hiccups
> and constipation.The parents were from a relatively good family. On
> taking history they were saying exact things like this problem started on
> 15th March. The child was also complaining pain abdomen on and off.
>
> When we saw her past medical records we were astonished. It was some sort
> of book. They had consulted 4 pediatrician and 2 gastroenterologist. All
> routine tests were done like CBC, urine,serum amylase /lipase, USG abdomen,
> CT scan of abdomen and sickling test. Even endoscopy was done which was
> normal. Almost all test results were normal except once urinary tract
> infection was present. On examination also, there was no jaundice or
> organomegaly. Even Tuberculosis was ruled out.
>
> Similarly for constipation also everything like thyroid function test and
> other tests were normal. But surprisingly the constipation was to such a
> great extent that regularly enema(liquid medicine given through rectum for
> passage of stool)was being given.
>
> Without enema the child was unable to pass stool. One more peculiar thing
> we noted was that it was not exactly vomiting but regurgitation(small
> amount of watery fluid) after hiccups used to come out, which the parents
> were telling vomiting.
>
> Everything from cyclic vomiting syndrome to abdominal migraine was
> suspected and ruled out.
>
> So it was diagnostic dilema, on the other hand parents were getting
> agitated day by day. However the symptoms of child improved a bit. The
> parents told that whenever the girl used to get admitted in hospital
> priorly her symptoms used to improve.
>
> Now we were left with only one cause and that was- “functional”.
> Functional disease are condition in which patient willingly tells symptoms
> without any disease. It is generally related to some stress which
> precipitates it. Hence it is somewhat psychiatric disorder.
>
> So, one female PG was told to talk to that girl(sort of counselling
> session).Sexual abuse was also suspected from tution teacher or some
> relative. Sometimes after sexual abuse children become scared and try to
> always remain near their parents.
>
> Anyways after that “counselling” session many things came out. It was not
> sexual abuses,but the girl told that her parents used to fight daily among
> themselves.
>
> And many times out of rage they used to beat her with slipper/broom/wooden
> stick/thin iron rod(?).
>
> Moreover the girl was of the opinion that her parents used to love her
> younger sister more than her(?sibling rivalry).
>
> So,all these things were creating stress in her life and so to gain
> attention and love she was having such symptoms.
>
> Anyways we counselled the parents and girl and send them for Psychiatry
> consultation.
>
> Further during the course after counselling the girl improved.
>
> This was such a unique case. Parents often fight in front of children or
> beat them thinking that it will not harm the children.
>
> But such things have severe effect on mental health of children.
>
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