The face of Narayanasamy whom you all believe as a vedic man, learned etc; at 98 if he has so much spike, either he is a rogue rat or a mad cap. But a big zero shit. KR
---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2024 at 06:34 Subject: Re: [KeralaIyers] Re: [iyer123] SWAMI VIVEKANANDA...JUST READ To: iyer <[email protected]>, Laxminarayan Sarma < [email protected]>, gopala krishnan <[email protected]>, N. Sekar <[email protected]>, Kerala iyer <[email protected]> Cc: Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> Dear folks The dalit-by-choice worshipper of Asaduddin Owaisi-Zakir Naik-Wendy Doniger O'Flaherty-Arundathi Roi-Ambedkar-Nandan-Valluvan and ex-President of India K R Narayanan -- caught again dancing in the glare of powerful spotlights like the proverbial emperor naked without even a kaupeenam, i.e. the self-styled NAYUNDA MAVEN and MAAMAA-SUPER PIMP with a stray rabid diseased dog for a father and a prostitute for a mother for whom he pimps fulltime -- now proudly claims that he is far below the status of a misbegotten chandaala, a corpse-devouring aghori, a mongrel, a mulatto, a quadroon, or an octoroon. *He confirms vehemently that he himself is "a mlechcha undoubedly", as I had earlier identified him.* Kudos for his candour. S Narayanaswamy Iyer On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 9:12 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <[email protected]> wrote: > Bastard Narayanasamy calling kettle the black; where are you old man; are > you a shudra or a brahmin? Ofcourse a pimp cannot have caste or varna. But > you are a melecha undoubtedly KR > > On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 16:19, Narayanaswamy Iyer <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Dear folks >> >> The mlechcha who crossed the ocean at least twice to gobble mlechcha food >> cooked by cow-and-calf-killing beef-eating Christians and Jews in >> California and in Hawaii, now declares unashamedly:- >> >> "*Vivekananda can also be called a nasthika at times. Crossing the sea >> was an offence.*" >> >> What the multiple-mocean-crossing mlechcha does not realise, and perhaps >> never knew, is that the late Narendra Dutt was a Bengali shoodran. >> >> Did the shoodran's "offence" cause him to be reduced to the status of a >> dalit, similar to the dalit-by-choice worshipper of Asaduddin Owaisi-Zakir >> Naik-Wendy Doniger O'Flaherty-Arundathi Roi-Ambedkar-Nandan-Valluvan and >> ex-President of India K R Narayanan? >> >> Or to the status of a misbegotten chandaala, a corpse-devouring aghori, a >> mongrel, a mulatto, a quadroon, or an octoroon? >> >> S Narayanaswamy Iyer >> >> On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 4:25 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I read and I also know Vivekananda; Vivekananda concept of Hinduism and >>> the Odissa incident of Vivekananda, is narrated here and connected to Cong >>> Prince statement (and Puri sankaracharya also? ) and DMK stalin cum >>> udhayanidhi? It is not clear from Mr Giri and Sekar. Hinduism is never a >>> religion; it is a way of life for the world, to take it in each human way, >>> think and act. Religion has a boundary; limitations; control; syllabus; >>> restrictions. But the way of life is as broad as the sky. Boundless; >>> expansive; leaves every one to choose; think and act according to their >>> convenience and change as time advances. Dharma is never defined but has >>> only an inclusive definition. Hence many times, the expansion takes a >>> different route. However all the walker reaches only a destination devised. >>> Hence yogas; many religions from that life in a small sector; in that there >>> are constricted views also, about which, the progressive , does not react, >>> though hurt others. Vivekananda is a learned; different from Ramakrishna >>> ParamaHamsa; thought differently sitting within a frame of mind, without >>> breaking the path; Dayananda saraswathy was another; Arabindo another; >>> where Sri ramanujar broke the vedas principle ,unlike Madhwa, still the >>> sky-Hinduism , bears everything. Vivekananda defied the Kasi-pundits. He >>> may look different in the eyes of the odisha. But Puri's statement was >>> different; he has no right to assert that Brahmins are greater than all; >>> and added that the PM shall not go near the Rama at Ayodhya; and hence he >>> is avoiding reaching Ayodhya. Yet Rahul and DMK and co twisted it as >>> sankaracharyas had disowned ayodhya as Prna prathishta is being done,in an >>> incomplete structure. So some one's words were twisted; knowing fully well >>> that Ayodhya will bury deep INDI under the earth, reacted against as Mamta >>> is doing. Vivekananda can also be called a nasthika at times. Crossing the >>> sea was an offence. The brahmin fascists always use the trump cards , to >>> react so that they think, all of them can survive. But...........KR IRS >>> 17124 >>> >>> On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 at 10:21, 'venkat giri' via iyer123 < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> * Respected Sir/s,* >>>> *Excerpts on the subject from* >>>> *S.N. Sahu served as Officer on Special Duty to President of India K.R. >>>> Narayanan.* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *A Lesson on Temples from Swami VivekanandaSwami Vivekananda was not >>>> allowed to visit Odisha temples after his return to India following his >>>> triumphant visit to the USA in 1893 to address several lectures including >>>> in the famous event organised by World Parliament of Religions in Chicago. >>>> It is a coincidence that the birth anniversary of Swami >>>> Vivekananda was celebrated on January 12 when there is massive publicity >>>> campaign launched by Narendra Modi regime for the consecration of Ram in >>>> Ayodhya on January 22, exactly in the same site where on December 6, 1992, >>>> the Babri mosque was demolished and Supreme Court held that to be an >>>> egregious violation of rule law. There is massive controversy being >>>> generated by BJP around Congress leaders and others who declined to >>>> participate in the much hyped-consecration ceremony. Four >>>> Shankaracharya also declined to participate on several grounds, one of >>>> which is that the temple is not completely constructed and so it is in >>>> contravention of scriptural injunction not to consecrate the deity in an >>>> incomplete shrine. Note that Swami Vivekananda was not allowed >>>> to visit Odisha temples after his return to India following his triumphant >>>> visit to the USA in 1893 to address several lectures including in the >>>> famous event organised by World Parliament of Religions in Chicago. >>>> So, here is an example of cerebral monk of Hinduism who mesmerised >>>> Americans by his brilliant exposition of spirituality and Vedanta and yet >>>> was told that he would not be allowed entry to temples of Odisha. In Volume >>>> 5 of Swami Vivekananda’s Complete Works, on page number 171, there is a >>>> letter Swami ji wrote to one Josephine MacLeod. In that, he wrote with >>>> anguish, “I do not know whether it will be possible to see the Orissan >>>> temples in company with your Japanese friends”.“I do not know”, he added, >>>> “whether I shall be allowed myself owing to my eating “Mlechchha >>>> Food”.While Swami Vivekananda was dubbed as “mlechchha food” eater because >>>> he ate food cooked by Christians in America and was not allowed to enter >>>> those temples of Orissa, present day Odisha, now Congress leaders refusing >>>> to join the Ram temple event in Ayodhya are dubbed as Ram-drohis or >>>> traitors to Ram. It is illuminating to not that Swami Vivekananda >>>> also reflected on the establishment of Indian National Congress which was >>>> established in 1885 by Allan Octavian Hume, a British national.Eleven years >>>> later in 1896 while Vivekananda was in London, he was asked a question: >>>> “Have you given any attention to the Indian National Congress moment?” In >>>> his response he said that he did not pay enough attention to it and added, >>>> “…I regard the movement as significant, and heartily wish it >>>> success.”Explaining further, he said that a nation was being made out of >>>> different races which in terms of variety remained no less plural than >>>> different peoples of Europe. He interpreted the acquisition of Indian trade >>>> by several European countries such as Britain, Dutch, Portugal and French >>>> as “a turning point in the history of humanity” and described that the >>>> trade and commerce of India played a tremendous part in the civilisation >>>> of the world.When asked in what direction it would proceed to attain >>>> finality, Vivekananda very presciently, said that it would lead to, in his >>>> words, “…the working out of India’s homogeneity, in her acquiring what we >>>> may call democratic ideas.” He went on to state that monopoly over >>>> intelligence and education by a cultured few should come to an end, >>>> provision of education should be accompanied with compulsory education and >>>> immense power of people should be utilised to actualise India’s potential. >>>> When Vivekananda was asked if India was sensitive and conscious of the >>>> awakening that he alluded to, his response was: “Perfectly conscious, The >>>> world perhaps sees it chiefly in the Congress movement and in the field of >>>> social reform.”In 1898 when someone told Swami ji that India National >>>> Congress and other patriotic organisations were carrying on strenuous >>>> agitation and petitioning the British government, he remarked that the >>>> rulers’ duty was to address the problems of the people. In that context he >>>> flagged the point as to who would continue to place people’s issues before >>>> the government. He asked, “Where are the men who are the able to keep up >>>> things demanded?” and suggested, “So make men first”.And so it was that >>>> Swami Vivekananda spoke thus of just 13 years after the establishment of >>>> Congress in 1885. This organisation is now criticised by none other than >>>> Prime Minister Narendra Modi for having been set up by a foreigner. >>>> <https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/afternoon-brief-congress-founded-by-foreigner-pm-modis-jibe-and-all-the-latest-news-101690268315900.html>Vivekananda’s >>>> ideas in the context of agitationsSwami Vivekananda’s words “Where are the >>>> men who are able to keep up things demanded” resonate in the several >>>> movements of people including the Bharat Jodo Yatra and now the Bharat Jodo >>>> Nyay Yatra, being launched on January 14. His vision is being carried >>>> forward by people engaged in several agitations with the ability to “keep >>>> up things demanded.”That was why Swami Vivekananda was often invoking the >>>> stirring words of the Upanishad, “Arise, awake and stop not till the goal >>>> is reached”. Rajiv Gandhi as prime minister of India had started >>>> celebrating Swami Vivekananda’s birthday as National Youth Day. Days after >>>> his birth anniversary, India must remain tuned to his words uttered in >>>> Chicago – that “sectarianism, bigotry and its horrible descendent >>>> fanaticism drenched the earth with the blood of innocents”, and hope that >>>> the bell that tolled to announce the commencement of the World Parliament >>>> of Religions would be the death knell of >>>> fanaticism.-----RegardsV.SridharanTrichy* >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "iyer123" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/852595865.1565085.1705467098871%40mail.yahoo.com >>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/852595865.1565085.1705467098871%40mail.yahoo.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>> . >>>> >>> -- >>> On Facebook, please join >>> https://www.facebook.com/groups/keralaiyerstrust >>> >>> We are now on Telegram Mobile App also, please join >>> >>> Pattars/Kerala Iyers Discussions: https://t.me/PattarsGroup >>> >>> Kerala Iyers Trust Decisions only posts : https://t.me/KeralaIyersTrust >>> >>> Kerala Iyers Trust Group for Discussions: >>> https://t.me/KeralaIyersTrustGroup >>> --- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "KeralaIyers" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/keralaiyers/CAL5XZoqtC5O3SceDqkTk58R4QhELGYAnq1UNdxUZ5KHGt1vhoA%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/keralaiyers/CAL5XZoqtC5O3SceDqkTk58R4QhELGYAnq1UNdxUZ5KHGt1vhoA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "iyer123" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion on the web visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/CAL4idhNz%2B8yV4sLp%3D%3DCZ2MMOCJY2nx4YVOcCLWtXk%3DFxH29ZCQ%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/iyer123/CAL4idhNz%2B8yV4sLp%3D%3DCZ2MMOCJY2nx4YVOcCLWtXk%3DFxH29ZCQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- On Facebook, please join https://www.facebook.com/groups/keralaiyerstrust We are now on Telegram Mobile App also, please join Pattars/Kerala Iyers Discussions: https://t.me/PattarsGroup Kerala Iyers Trust Decisions only posts : https://t.me/KeralaIyersTrust Kerala Iyers Trust Group for Discussions: https://t.me/KeralaIyersTrustGroup --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "KeralaIyers" group. 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