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Yes sir but our community is too small to make a difference but where we
fail is, we plot our own downfall and don't mind stabbing ourselves, see
the example of Jairam Ramesh.

As I said so many times before, many brahmins are at the forefront to
defame and denigrate Modi - just see the TV debates.

N Sekar

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On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 6:59 PM, 'Bala N. Aiyer' via KeralaIyers
<keralaiy...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
With all that is said on the daily talks and prayers, It is sad that many
Hindus, and many Brahmins in that, in Tamil Nadu and Kerala continue their
allegiance and give support to atheists forces like Congress, Communists
and SMK political gangs.

There is no need to blame anyone else but wake-up our own community
members. Christians and Muslims are awake and seem to be intelligent.
Hope this group will evolve out of this slumber and wake-up.

With kind regards & best wishes,



Bala N. Aiyer


On Tuesday, June 4, 2024 at 08:12:51 AM CDT, Rajaram Krishnamurthy <
keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote:


It is not corruption. It is not biased. It is "US". How we view our home
with green eyes. How did Bheeshma look at Draupadi?. Bias is avoiding the
dharma and feeling our thoughts on our clan pattern at the back. So too
north south trends. When we turn a turtle out of fear even after old age,
purely on vested interests, why not a nation with so many people like
"US"?  Than Nenjarivadhu Poyyatrkka; poytha pin than nenje thannaich
chudum. We think we are upright; are we? KR IRS 4624

On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 06:24, Narayanaswamy Sekar <nsekar...@gmail.com>
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Thanks.

But phrases like democracy has won etc. are just that - words. They are
more to console ourselves.

My take:

1. The overconfidence of the BJP and the consequent lower turnout.

2.  Over reliance on one individual  - we need strong state level leaders
with enough powers.

3. BJP's National President should be a person with strong popular support
and more charisma. Just riding on Modi’s back will not do.

4.  We Hindus will never unite. We specialize in committing hara kiri.

5. If after Sandeshkhali Mamata still wins, there is no hope for the
country.

6. Muslims will in due course of time, will rule the country as they call
the shots where they are more than 20%, negating the earlier presumption of
30%.

7. We Hindus are so badly divided on caste basis, we would rather prefer
Islamic rulers than accommodate each other.

8. We fall prey to cash handouts and freebies and don't care about fiscal
deficit, prudent financial management etc.

9. Feeling among the middle class that tax rates were skewed against them,
what with the high patrol and gas prices.

10. Failure of the Govt to explain what they have done and why.

12.  Social media does not help win the elections beyond a point, leaders
need to be in touch with the ground realities.

13. At least in T N, internal sabotage by disgruntled leaders who think
only seniority counts and not talent or merit.

14. Modi should rely more on his political colleagues than just on the
bureaucracy only, however bright they may be.  They can get the job done
but the politicians know the pulse of the people and know what works and
what doesn't.

15. As the saying goes, everything is for the good- at least that's the
only reason to console ourselves.

16. Exit polls ( India Today) called the two assembly elections correctly
but missed the Lok Sabha elections.

17. Modi has to show more statesmanship to carry his Allies along, as he
seems to lead  a Coalition  Govt,  in its true sense, for the first time.

18. Politics is a game of compromises and  rigid stand will not help. He
needs to emulate Vajpayee even if it means compromises. After all, politics
is the art of the possible.

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On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 1:16 PM, Suryanarayana Ambadipudi
<sn.ambadip...@gmail.com> wrote:
Some times “ law of negative returns or law of diminishing returns “ play a
role

Hindi belt to a great extent rejected lotus

The 2024 Parliamentary Elections results, gave a big jolt to BJP. It seems
that on its own it is not in a position to form a Government at the Centre.

How ever, with it's Allies, it can form the Government but how far Nitesh
Kumar and N. Chandrababu Naidu would extend their support to NDA ? I don't
think would stake his claim to head the Coalition Government at Centre! Why
because, he never headed Coalition Government, either at State level ( When
he was Chief Minister of Gujarat) nor during his twin term as the Prime
Minister.
Political uncertainty looms large in the Country as of now. However, one
should respect the verdict delivered by the Voters in the Country. Finally,
Democracy has Won in the Country. Let us hope that " Good Governance" would
be delivered by which ever Alliance that Succeeds in forming a Stable
Government.

Naidu being offered NDA convenor post

Only consolation…. Now we can have a strong opposition ( ? ) 😂



*A.SURYANARAYANA*
*The less you speak,the more you are listened to*


On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 at 12:29 PM, N Sekar <nseka...@yahoo.com> wrote:

If this trend holds, it is a sad reflection as we seem to vote for
corruption and on caste lines, ignoring the huge progress on
infrastructure, defense etc.

Doles seem to carry the day.

Lower voter turnout and the apathy of the middle class seem to have
contributed to the present trend.

Nitish and Naidu won't hesitate to switch, if their demands are met.

I still hope and pray BJP will at least absolute majority on its own.

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