Can all of us laugh at his paradoxical knowledge ?; writing my own history as he writes on Quora?; how? Can I invent something new without authentication as he does?; foolishness overflowing; and he only woke up early and pulled me to battle; but sat joker stuff. Sanskrit verses in history cannot be rewritten by any good man; only quora gossipers can do it. KR IRS 26724
On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 at 19:29, gopala krishnan <gopa4...@yahoo.in> wrote: > Mr Rajaram, > > You read what you wrote. You know to answer like this only . This is your > drawback. *You cannot re- write or write of your own*. Don't spoil > other's good mornings. Thank you > Gopalakrishnan > > On Thursday, 25 July, 2024 at 04:45:18 am IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I agree with you. The ass Jackal is only you. You write with a lot of > errors. I write error free and with content. If you cannot understand that > it is your clay matter concerned.So dont brag It will co,e. Already I > pointed out abundant errors which you are yet to deny. Silence is Gold; > abuse is trash. You do it ood . For this you woke up so early To copy and > paste without application of the mind taking 4 hrs WOW Great KR IRS 24724 > > On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 at 17:55, gopala krishnan <gopa4...@yahoo.in> wrote: > > Mr Rajaram, > > You only wrote you will write in a best manner error free. I have asked > you to write at the earliest because, after days , it will be a matter of > no interest. > > It is not so easy to compile and make a posting. It requires 3-4 hours > concentrated hard working. It requires good caliber which you lack. > > Once the jackal said, since it could not reach the ripe grapes at the top- > those grapes are sour. > > Gopalakrishnan > > On Wednesday, 24 July, 2024 at 09:59:56 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Thanks, I will! It is not that I claim; but you do. Because of your > weakness of writing and your cacophony brain. Writing is my prowess. I > decide . Not you After all I do not write for the 3 mosquitoes KR IRS 24724 > > On Wed, 24 Jul 2024 at 11:12, gopala krishnan <gopa4...@yahoo.in> wrote: > > Mr Rajaram, > > You claim more knowledgeable about History of Kerala temples. I welcome > you to write *immediately* about Chamravattam temple in an understanding > manner. > > You may write in your own language with facts and figures in an > appreciating manner by members. > > Don't delay the posting. The porridge cooled is old porridge. Welcome Mr > Rajaram, welcome Mr Rajaram. > > Goplakrishnan > > On Wednesday, 24 July, 2024 at 09:01:15 pm IST, Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > keyarinc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > The write up if simply uploaded on dit and dash, without well read, it > becomes stale. Generally Kerala temples whether bhagavathy, Badra kali or > Durga based or Magic, demonic based. lack historical data ; and the author > should have questioned as to why? Sthalapuranam is fabricated by some odd > names. For example chamravattam; smabara vattam; sambara vettam; etc; > samabara rishi never existed; some sites say Sabari Sabari rishi never > existed; sambara asura was there; Again Jain dynasty was called chowta > dynasty. 1100 to 1600 AD. Ruled north of kerala kasaragod; Jain temples > came about but they did not have any jain swamiji as sambara . In Sanskrit > SAMBARA MEANS WATER WHICH ALONE HAS RELEVANCE TO THE PLACE HAVING ON THE > BANKS OF BHARATHApUZHA. Vettam is a nagercoil word meaning a village. So > possible sambara water based vattam village modified as Chembaravettam. > Again sastha temple , other than Kuladeivam from TN , was in vogue in > Kerala only since 1200 AD. KulkathuPuzha is estimated as 863 AD. Same is > the case of Bhagavathy also. Hence , I had decided to speak about it all in > an article later. It is easy to abuse people as they like it; but only when > doing good work do they also get a right to learn and unlearn. Those who > loiter around and simply print corrupted ones, without the application of > the mind have no qualification at all. There is an addendum:for > those interested in history; whose?Gopla? History is a subject;only the > learnt can know about it. Plagiarism is not a history where there are no > answers for a lot of questions and had he dome that all along, > presentations would have been meaningful. The Chowta dynasty has nothing to > do with the temple; and akkamma and a dozen heroines of karnataka was the > history in the wars of Karnataka and ruling of south Karnataka. K Rajaram > IRS 24724 > > On Tue, 23 Jul 2024 at 21:40, Gopala Krishnan <gopa4...@gmail.com> wrote: > > CHAMRAVATTAM SREE DHARMASASTHA TEMPLE > > *Near Tirur, Malappuram District- Kerala-**Compiled.* > > Dear friends, > > I have heard about the Chamravattam SreeDharma sastha temple in a cape in > Bharthappuzha in my boyhood days from my late father. > > Later during 1996’s while working as DE at Calicut and went to Tirur for > helping in installation works, Mr Vasudevan Elayathu, my colleague used > to tell me, when we get time , we must go to Tirunavaya and Chamravattam > temples near Tirur. However works were so tight, these temple visits could > not be materialised. > > *Yesterday I saw three videos about Chamravattam temple in you- tube; I > felt I may write about Chamravattam Dharma sastha temple today.* > > Though the temple can be seen clearly from the Ponnni Bridge, the approach > road is through a ridge, about 5’ wide for about a KM. While nearing the > temple, on either side trees are grown like a jungle. In the cape end > also trees are grown like a jungle. > > While flooding Nila (Bharathapuzha) washes her sins flowing over the > temple, the temple is completely immersed in water. Temple will be so much > waterlogged that the water level will be about 4 feet high inside the > temple. > > The temple has no flag mast, no annual festival, and no bell is provided. > > The deity Sreedharma sastha is in Grihastha incarnation, with wife Prabha > and son Sathayaka. > > Like Sabarimalai, people of all religions are permitted entry. There is no > age restriction for women. > > A lot of renovations are done in the temple and approach road. > > The information furnished here are from different websites, heard in > You-tube, and reading in books. > > Hope a divine reading in the morning. > > Gopalakrishnan 24-07-2024 > > 1 Introduction/Legends > > Chamravattam Shri Dharma Sastha Temple is steeped in mythology, with tales > suggesting that Parashurama initially established the Prathishta of the > swayambhu shila. > > Subsequent to this, Sabari Maharishi is said to have rediscovered this > sacred murti and commenced its veneration. Tradition holds that Sabari > Maharishi's ashram once stood nearby, lending the region its earlier name, > Shambara Vattam, which later transformed into Chamravattom. > > *Another and important legend is-* > > It is said that Thousands of years ago, a saint named “sambanan” came to > this place, saw the calm and beautiful island near the shore of > Bharathapuzha. He thought it was the best place for his Thapass. At the end > of his long pass, he had a bright light in front of him. He thought “Lord > Vishnu” was going to appear before him, but Sri Vishnu didn’t appear and > the light didn’t go. Then he thought it was the presence of Lord Shiva. The > light has not disappeared. Then he thought of Lord Ganesha, Lord > Subrahmanya, and Goddess Durga also. > > Finally, he recognized the presence of Lord Sastha with his wife Prabha > and their son Sathyaka. Then the light of Sastha disappeared. > > He approached the Karanavar of Kuttisseri mana on the bank of > Bharathappuhzha. Saint explained his rare experiences and asked him to > build a temple on the island. The saint advised the Pooja procedures and > left the place. The place where Saint Sambara saw Vettom was previously > known as Sambaravettom, then it transformed into Chamravattom. ( This > legend was told in you tube also) > > *Located approximately 13 km from Tirur* within the Malappuram district, > the Chamravattom sridharma sastha Temple occupies a distinctive position, > set amidst the confluence of two branches of the Bharathapuzha River. > > This revered temple holds a place of prominence among the 108 Sastha > temples scattered throughout Kerala. Its significance resonates in the > Thottam Pattu (Ayyappan Theeyattu Pattu), an ancient narrative that > chronicles the 108 Ayyappan Kavukal presents within the state of Kerala. > > 2 History > > Actual year of construction of the temple is unknown. Historians are of > opinion that there was a Jain temple situated somewhere near this place. > We can see some clay models of animals like dogs, lions etc. scattered on > the underground of the river and banks as evidences. > > 3 Architecture > > Believed to have been constructed by Perumthachan, a master craftsman and > a legendary sculptor, this temple is a famous Sastha temple which is about > 12-15 km from Tirur on the shores of Bharatha Puzha(Nila River) > > 4 Approach > > The temple can also be reached by a ferry from Ponnani village . What > makes this temple so beautiful is the river Bharathapuzha that flows behind > this shrine and the vast expanses of paddy fields indicating the rich > agrarian culture. > > 5 Deities > > Presiding Deity: Sree Sastha. In Chamravattom temple the God is > consecrated at the level of the river though the temple is in slightly > higher grounds. During rainy season , the flood water enters the temple and > sub merges the idol. > > There are several stories and folk lores which describe the power of this > God, popularly called as "Chamravattathappan". It is assumed that the > Thamarakulangara Sastha temple near Tripunithura is an extension of this > temple. > > Sastha was the son of Lord Shiva and Lord Vishnu and has two wives. These > wives are called Poorna and Pushkala in some parts and Prabha and Sathyaka > in other parts. > > 5 A Sub Deities: > > Sree Bhadrakali, Sree Ganapathy, Lord Subramanya, Sree Mahavishnu, Goddess > Durga, Sree Parvathi > > 6 Pooja Timings > > THE TEMPLE OPENS AT 5:00 AM > > 5:00 AM: Nada Thurakkal 5:05 AM: Nirmalyam > > 5:30 AM: Ganapathy Homam > > 7:30 AM: Usha Pooja 9:30 AM: Ucha Pooja > > 11:00 AM: Ucha Pooja > > TEMPLE CLOSES AT 12:00 PM > > TEMPLE WILL BE CLOSED BETWEEN 12:00 PM AND 5:00 PM > > TEMPLE OPENS AT 5:00 PM > > 6:30 PM: Deeparadhana 7:30 PM: Athazha pooja > > TEMPLE CLOSES AT 8:30 PM > > There is no dhoopam, deepam and use of bell during the pujas of the temple. > > 7 Important Festivals and Days: > > Prathishtadinam in Kumbham, Mandala Vilakku > > There is no yearly festival (Utsavam)here but Aarattu (holi bath of diet) > is there. In other temples at the end of utsavam, idol of the deity is > carried to a water body. > > But here the water level of the river rises in rainy seasons and water > rush to the shrine. When the Prathishta immerses in water then it is > considered Aarattu here. > > 8Specialities of this temple. > > People believe that worshipping God Sastha in Chamravattom on Saturdays > would help them get rid of the evil effects of the bad times caused by the > planet Saturn. > > Nherippetta Tharppanam: Devotees offer this to cure skin diseases > > Another special offering conducted from pooyam of Malayalam month > makaram to visakham of the month idavam. It is believed that > chamravattathayyappan has a power to control rains. *People drop coconut > in bharathappuzha as their offering to this deity during this rainy season. > * > > Chathushatham ( porridge of four materials coconut, rice, jaggery, & > kadalipazham) > > Panapayasam > > Chuttuvilakku (lighting of the Sanctum) > > 9 Some Offerings in the temple with details > > Aayursooktha Pushpanjali₹20 Aikyamathya Pushpanjali₹20 > > Ashtothara shatham₹20 > > Bhagyasooktha Manthra Pushpanjali₹15 > > Chandhanam Chaarth - 1 Nada₹150 Chathusshatham₹3000 > > Chethy Maala₹20 Choroonu₹50 Chuttuvilakku₹2300 > > Ganapathy Homam₹30 Kettunira₹10 > > Koottu Payasam₹130 Maala Poojikkal₹10 > > Malar Nivedyam₹10 Nei Payasam₹100 > > Neyvilakku₹5 Niramala₹400 Nithya Pooja₹501 Ottayappam₹30 Payasam₹25 Payasam > (Special)₹80 > > Purusha Sooktha Manthra Pushpanjali₹20 > > Sahasranamamanthra Pushpanjali₹20 > > Sastha Sooktha Pushpanjali₹20 Shaneeshwara Pushpanjali₹20 > > Thrikaalapooja₹501 Vivaham₹200 > > 10 Pilgrims visit > > Innumerable pilgrims visit this temple on their way to the famous > “Sabarimala” temple during the season. Resting arrangements are provided by > temporary thatched sheds on the right side of the temple. Fencing > arrangements are around the cape where the temple is situated. > > 11 Dhyana mantra > > Bhoothanatha Sadanada Sarava bhootha Dayapara > > Raksha Raksha Maha Bhago Sasthredhabyam Namo Nama. > > 12 Origin of name Chamravattam > > The name Chamravattam originates from Sambaravattam, named after a saint > named Sambara Maharshi, who used to meditate on the banks of the river. > > (**For those interested more in History only) > > 13**AryaBhatta > > Studies also suggest that Aryabhata, the great mathematician-astronomer > from the classical age of Indian mathematics and Indian astronomy is from > Chamravattam, which also may mean that Chamravattam was a part of old Jain > kingdom. > > 14** Jain settlement > > New studies point that during earlier years, Chamravattam could have been > a part of the Jain settlement as a part of the Jain country ruled from > sravanabelgola and the name of the river ‘Bharathapuzha’ is named after the > mythical Jain king “Bharata”. The statues, pots and utilities made of clay > found in this place, even today, may be pointing to the same fact and to > the differences in pooja and the concept of lord Dharmasastha is considered > to be married in this temple. > > You may notice that this place is not mentioned in many old Hindu stories > and according to the old sayings around here, places towards west of > Thirunavaya , including Chamravattam, is considered to be part of Arabian > Sea. Due to this belief, devotees perform the rituals for the dead at > Thirunavaya, considering it as the end of the river. > > 15 Legend of an iyer > > I have read this in books. Once an iyer had skin issues. He approached a > famous Ayurvedic physician at Ponnani. The physician suggested he should > take the fat of ratsnake for a month in small scale every day. He was > having the medicine. Iyer hesistated and told- eating fat of animals? I > will meet some Jyotishi. > > He went to an astrologer and asked the solution. Astrologer suggested taking > Nila water from a particular place for a month near the chamravattam temple > . Even with in 15 days the skin problem vanished and in a month fully > vanished. > > Iyer went to physician and said- Just by taking Nila water near the > Chamravattam temple my skin problems vanished. > > The physician referred his books and said- never, you would have taken > fat of rat snake. He went along with iyer to the temple and looked at the > location where he drank water. He showed iyer a dead rat snake lying about > 3 metres away struck up in a rock. > > *I have added this legend I read for the reason, being cape, living and > dead snakes can be there around. 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