Respected sir,
The half read Mr Rajaram does not know, there were many Vilwamangalam Swamigal.
He quotes some historical points wrote by some body, because it did not
mention, a temple is not there. He aruges about Aaadi Sankara did not brought
Mookambika to Chottanikkara.
Are we fully know about the period of Aadi Sankara? There are many missing
links. Either he knows the legends nor the History.
It is also very difficult to make out from his English full of mistakes. I do
not know why some of our own members gives full support to him, and want
members like you and me are to be removed from Iyer123 group (refer Sai
moderator mail)
Gopalakrishnan
On Friday, 26 July, 2024 at 07:50:54 am IST, Narayanaswamy Iyer
<iyern...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear folks
Like the thieving fox whose tail is caught in the farmer's trap, our mlechcha
MOOR KR ex-IRS 25724 tries to blaspheme his way out by outright lies and slimy
innuendoes.
"When so many things are pointed out , he feels so cracked, falling like 9
pins, and then pumps out garbage."
"So tuck the tail and read , analyse and write. Or may write vadivelu jokes we
will laugh. KR IRS 25724."
S Narayanaswamy Iyer
On Fri, Jul 26, 2024 at 12:00 AM Rajaram Krishnamurthy <keyarinc...@gmail.com>
wrote:
The great Kerala Historians had commented about all the temples pointing out
Parasurama as well as many sthalapuranam of Kerala quoting from vedic
scriptures unrelated materials, and the incidents held elsewhere repeated here
also as it happened, to boost their levels. People who speak a lot as kerala
iyer in the group of just three always, did not know their own historians thus
when they wrote kerala history. Vilwamangalam swamigal is misused for all
temples as written by him even in 1200 AD etc. Virtually Kerala truth writers
disproved it as where he writes about trivandrum princess who lived only in
1800 AD , how could have written in 1300 AD? So copy and paste of
Gopalakrishnan is also a hoax in some parts , which he did not analyse or
research before writing. When so many things are pointed out , he feels so
cracked, falling like 9 pins, and these 3 pumps out garbage as the write up
cannot be established by him nor can assert by evidence ,all, what Gopala
wrote as correct. And when the right people say and prove he is wrong, one who
is intelligent , will be cautious, not to provoke; but being a double sided
fool, thinking hima slearned, tries to provoke others with adjectives like
bluffer etc. And he does another joke also; he copies mine to write elsewhere
and he was also caught red handed. Only a low level will stoop to that level.
Guna karma vibhaga: Adi shankara ego story is elsewhere where the sanskrit
verse does not say as ego; sankara Vijayam dies not say adi shankara visiting
kerala temples like chottani and other bhagavathi temples at all; had HE been
there, that too in 600 AD onwards (when chottani etc temples were never there;
only siva vishnu brahma , shakti only one bhagavati temple in the history) his
whereabouts would have been mentioned by the people who wrote in sanskrit then.
It is the same case with Pahien and yuan swang etc who apart from nalanda
should have mentioned about adi shankara a scholar. No one did mention that at
all. Sankara vijayam does not speak. It is ok if the temple speaks for its
publicity; but we shall copycat. The very fact the historians of Kerala, as
well as China or anyone else did not even mention in aline nor even the Nalanda
university (adishankara is supposed to have defeated so many buddhists and
nalanda dharmakeerthi or nagaraja should have mentioned any such but never at
all) That means Adi shankara was only lived in 450 BCE; then kerala History
was in dark; here were no Bhagavati temples etcc in those times . Only one
Bhagavati is known even as late as 800 AD. Theertha and all other shiva ,
vishnu and even only Brahma temple are all described.Ayyappa temple is never
known at all. And by abusing someone without knowing the depth of the abyss
into which Gopala had entered, bow-wowing is of no use. Narayanasamy's
knowledge is world famous and his words are in no way any attributes. Sthala
puranam generally is not in any way authentic. So tuck the tail and read ,
analyse and write. Or may write vadivelu jokes we will laugh. KR IRS 25724
On Thu, 25 Jul 2024 at 02:51, Narayanaswamy Iyer <iyern...@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear folks
Sri Gopalakrishnan writes piously, with reference to Aadi Shankaraachaarya's
temporarily being perplexed at being suddenly shunned because of his ego:-
"ego had somehow crept in to make him feel superior and that his ego was being
shunned by the Divine Presence, making him unable to fathom it."
Super-critic, incorrigibly crude, rude, and blasphemic mlechchan nude Rajaram
Krishnamurthy obviously cannot suppress his own bloated ego and must make
unwelcome, unwanted, and irrelevant comments to underline and re-emphasise his
abysmal lack of devotion to any and every Hindu god and goddess.
I repeat that he is a nude mlechchan, having regard to his own self-assigned
name: krush-na-MOOR-ti, which he carries everywhere and will be buried with in
a hole exactly as vagrant flea-infected, rabid, wormy, distempered,
flaky-skinned, rot-eared, blind female canines will be buried.
Moors are cow-slaughtering, beef-eating mlechcha Muslims found in Sri Lanka,
Spain, Portugal, Sicily, Africa, South Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia, and
black descendants in America from Moroccon "African Moors" claiming special
rights from a 1780 treaty with Morocco.
What is incredible is that the avowed r'g-veda chauvinist seems not to have
taken the slightest notice of what Sri Gopalakrishnan wrote:-
"In the month of Dhanu, Rigveda Laksharchana, under the auspices of thanthri
and attended by great Vedic scholars, is performed for 8 days."
S Narayanaswamy Iyer
On Thu, Jul 25, 2024 at 8:21 AM Gopala Krishnan <gopa4...@gmail.com> wrote:
KAADAMPUZHADEVI TEMPLE 1
MalappuramDistrict-Kerala -Compiled
Dear Friends,
I had been to Kadampuzha Devi temple many timeswhich is famous for Muttarukkal
and Poomootal offerings. About two years back Ivisited the temple along with my
wife and son. A lot of changes had come atKadampuzha from my earlier visit. My
son was coming for the first time to thetemple.
A new bus stand had come with regular buses plying toPalghat, Kozhikode etc. A
large car parking ground almost completed was there;still many cars were parked
there.
Three excellent vegetarian hotels have come, a lotmore shops selling coconuts
for muttarukkal has appeared.
Outside the temple toilets have come for men andwomen near car parking. It was
a must and provided now.
I saw a newly constructed administrative office inthe entrance, 3-4 securities
for guiding devotees, an excellent covered pathwayas Queue for devotees, and
brand new appearance for the temple itself.
The details for muttarukkal, the important purposefor which devotees visit the
temple, are prepared by shops themselves, in theoffice, amount payable is
calculated, and a computerised receipt is given withdetails furnished by us. It
is to be handed over to the priest in the temple.Now assistants are there for
chief priest.
Visiting the temple in the early morning is more preferredbecause there will be
lesser devotees before us. I reached by 5.30 AM and therewere only 20-25
devotees before us.
The information in this posting is re arranged withaddition if necessary from
an earlier posting by me about ten years back.
Hope a divine reading.
Gopalakrishnan 25-07-2024
1Introduction
Kaadampuzha Devi temple is situated in the MalappuramDistrict, Kerala. Since
the Devi is vanadurga the temple is closed early in the night. Devihas no
proper form.
Poomoodal (Covering the deity with red thetti (jungleflame flowers) is the most
important offering in the temple. Devotees have to wait for years for
conducting theoffering after booking.
Most devotees come for solving their problems byMuttarukkal, in front of the
idol. The details of muttarukkal are givenelsewhere in this posting.
2 Legend
The Legend about the origin of the temple is associated with the popularepisode
in “Mahabharatha” where Arjuna does penance in Kamyakavanam toappease Lord
Shiva to obtain the divine weapon “Paasupathastra”. Lord Shiva approaches
Arjuna as ahunter i.e. Kiratha with His divine consort SreeParvathy escorting
Him as ahuntress, Kirathi. Arjuna is challenged by the Lord in disguise to test
theskills of the boon seeker.
In the fierce battle between Lord Shiva (Kiratha) and Arjuna, the arrows that
Arjuna showered onLord Shiva miraculously turned into Thechi [jungle
flame]flowers by the will ofSree Parvathy and Lord Shiva was fully covered with
flowers. The flowersand leaves offered by Arjuna to the Shivalinga were also
seen on Kirathaitself. Arjuna then recognizes the Lord and prostrates before
him.Having found Arjuna worthy of the deadly weapon, the Lord obliges His
devoteevery soon, and here He is goaded by SreeParvathy who hastened the
process witha motherly affection to Arjuna.
During the divine couple’s wandering in the forest, SreeParvathy felt thirsty
and the Lord broughtforth holy water from River Ganga through a well-directed
arrow into the earth.This event is immortalized as‘Kaatan-Ambu-eitha-ala’ where
‘kaatan’ is hunter, ‘ambu’ is arrow,'eitha’ is shot and ‘ala’ is hole. This
became Katanambueithaala which was later colloquialised asKadampuzha. Devotees
thus worship the holethrough which river Ganga sprouted and this is the idol,
the divine sankalpa inSrikovil.
My note for the only critic Mr Rajaram- The legend told above is associated
with many temples. It is legend. Icannot produce any proof that the legend is
pertaining to this temple.
3 History
The temple was founded by Shree Shankaracharya and the month he consecrated
Kadampuzha Temple, theday of Karthika in the month of Virshchikam (November –
December) is considered as the most auspicious day and iscelebrated as the
festivalday.
Shree Shankaracharya,during his Deshadanam,[ a pilgrimage to various parts of
the country,] cameacross this place while he was going to Chottanikkara Temple
after his Darshan at Mookambika Temple.
When he reached the place now known as Kadampuzha, he found that his way was
blocked by a Divine Presence. Even with the superior Sightthat could “See” or
“Understand” Divine presences, he could not fathom it.Perplexed, he meditated
to understand why he failed to fathom the Divine Presenceand within himself
discovered that having attained the “Sarvajnanapeedhom”,ego had somehow crept
in to makehim feel superior and that his ego was being shunned by the Divine
Presence, making him unable tofathom it.
The Divine Saint immediately set about cleansing his mind of any ego andmade
himself as humble and pure minded as an innocent child. Heapproached the Divine
Presence again with utmost devotion and supplication andimmediately perceived
what the presence was and wherein it was emanating from.
He marvelled at the Divine Presence of the Devi very strongly bonded withthe
Divine Presence of Lord Shiva and decided that the place should be treated
withabsolute reverence.
He discerned that the Divine power is emanating from the holein the ground
andtook steps to consecrate the place as a temple and also constitutedLord
Narasimha and Sudarshana Chakra in front of the Devi and also decided toplace
Dharmashasta and Nagakanyaka or either sides of the temple.
He also stipulated the poojas and rituals that must be conducted at thetemple
and these stipulations are followed till date.
4 Temple and deities
AdiShankara built the temple over this spot in the method prescribed byThachu
Sastra and on the stone right in front of this, where the divinepresence of
Lord Shiva was perceived, he consecrated Narasimha Moorthy and theSudarshana
Chakra each facing South and North respectively.
On the South side of the temple Naga Kanya was consecrated and Shasta onthe
North.
Then, around 1949, when Shree M.KAchutha Warier was the trustee, the sanctum
sanctorum was rebuilt usinglaterite stones and theroof was built using jack
wood and tiles. However, only the North side wascompleted and the other three
were laid bare. During this time the pilgrimageto the temple was rather bleak
and the temple trustees found the upkeep rathertough.
Then in 1974, a DevaPrashnam[divine inquiry] was conducted and according to the
divinations then made, Bharmashree Andaladi DivakaranNamboothiripad was made
the Thantri (Chief Priest) and the compensatory poojasand other poojas for
prosperity conducted by him brought about a huge change.
Pilgrims started to flock Kadampuzha again and year after year thisimproved.
Deva Prashnam was conducted again in 1984 and 1993 and whatevercompensatory
rituals suggested at those times were also religiously carriedout.
In the Deva Prashna of 1993, it was divined that the sanctum sanctorum was to
be rebuilt using granitestones and the roof should be paved with brass and
immediately the workwas taken up and what we see is the result of that.
The sanctum sanctorum was builtusing a complex calculation known as
“Siddharthakam”.
The temple is built on the upper side of the riverflowing near the temple.
Only sanctum is there, there is no sopanam or toweror any such for this temple.
The hole, divined to be the one created by the mighty arrow of Lord Shivathat
summoned Ganaga for quenching Parvathi’s thirst, was perceived as theDevine
Power Source by AdiShankara and hence there is no idol to represent the
Presence here.
No idol for deity is also a unique aspect of Kadampuzha temple. To mark this
place and for the common man’sreference, a Thidambu or Arch is kept on top.
Onlyduring the “Poo Moodal” rite the Thidumbu is removed and the hole exposed.
Poomoodal is done over the deity location.Muttarukkal is performed in the floor
in front of the deity.
5 Dailypoojas
Daily poojas are conducted as prescribed by Aadi Sankaracharya.
Devi is worshiped here in threeforms. In the mornings she is worshiped as
VidyaDurga (Saraswati)bestowing knowledge and excellence in career to all.
In the afternoon she is worshiped as Vanadurga (Durga) in the Twaritha Devi
form blessing the devoteeswith health, early marriage, and domestic harmony and
in the evening as AadiDurga (Mooladurga - Lakshmi)bestowing the devotees with
wealth and overall prosperity.
Goddess at Kadampuzha is worshipped as ‘twaritha’ or onewho is quick in
granting blessings and favours.
Lord Narasimha facing South andSudarshanachakra facing northare honoured
through depictions in the same sila idol in an enclosure in frontof the sanctum
sanctorum.
There are sreekovils for SreeDharma Saastha and enclosure for Nagakanyaka as
upadevaas or subsidiary deities.
6 Thanthrik Festivals(Poushtika Karmas)
1 Rigveda Laksharchana
In the month of Dhanu, Rigveda Laksharchana, under the auspices ofthanthri and
attended by great Vedic scholars, is performed for 8 days. TheRigveda Archana
commences in the early hours every day and Abhisheka will beperformed in the
evening. Cultural programs will be held during the first 7days staging temple
arts and art forms, well attended by large audience andmany dignitaries.
2DravyaKalasam
DravyaKalasam in the month of Thulam is conducted with its thanthrik
andritualistic varieties for 8 days under the auspices of Temple Thanthri.
TheDravyaKalasam will commence with Aacharyavaranam, Mulayidal,
Praasdasudhi,Rakshoknahoma, Asthrakalasa, Vaasthukalasa, Dhara, Sudhi, Homas,
Thatwahoma,and finally concludes with BrahmakalasaAbhisekha accompanied by
Valiyapani andMelavadhyams etc.
3 Murajapam
There will be one day’s special thanthri pooja every month followed
withMurajapam by great vedic scholars.There are no festivals in this Temple
that are celebrated with the usualpomp, show and colourful processions. But
there are manyreligious occasions that are celebrated in a festive manner.
4 Thirukarthika
The Karthika day in Vrischigam iscelebrated as Pradishta day inTemple with
Sudhi, Navakom, Panchagavyam, special kalasamsetc on the auspicesof the
Thanthri of the temple. ThePoomoodal and all special poojas on this day are
performed by Devaswomdirectly. Unlike other temples, the Karthikadeepam
lightings are done inthe early hours in the morning. There will be large scale
PrasadaOotu to thedevotees in specially put up vast pandal in temple compound
from 10.30 amonwards which may extend to the evening. The number of devotees
who attend thisreligious feast may well cross 15000. There will be special
poojas and vadhyams particularly inSreeMadambiyarkavu, a KirathaMoorthy Temple
situated 2 km away from here.Due to the ceremonial connections the Karthika day
poojas in this Temple areoffered by KadampuzhaDevaswom.
5 Ramayana Month
Sreemad Devi Bhagavatha Navaham is conducted in the month of Thulam everyyear.
6 BhagavathaSapthaha
SreemadBhagavathaSapthaha is conducted in the month of Thulam /Virischigom
every year
7. Offering Muttarukkal
Muttuarukkal means cut offobstacles or curing of problems). In simple words
eliminate obstacles/problems.
The priest breaks the coconut in front of the deity andif it is well broken,
the problem will be solved. Depending upon how the twohalves are, the priest
announces the Devi’s decision.
For individual problem separate coconut is offered. Thedifferent types of muttu
are like- deha muttu, vidya muttu, vyapara muttu,mangalya muttu, gruha muttu
etc.
For muttarukkal coconuts are to be given to thepriest with details of the
person, star and problem.
The list isgiven along with the receipt from the administrative office
nowadays.
We can bring coconuts either from home or purchasefrom any of the vendors
present near the temple.
With the receipt and coconuts in a bag the devoteshave to join the queue. On
the way, water is kept, to dip the coconuts forpurifying. In fact by dipping in
water, coconut easily halves on breaking. Normallydevotees carry one or two
coconuts more with them.
Muttarukkal is halving the coconut by the priests infront of Devi striking on
the stone. They halve each coconut so quicklyuttering name, star and purpose of
muttu. Devidisposes. If there is no problem coconutwill halve or else break
into unequal pieces. The coconuts must be free from rot. Rotten coconuts to be
replenished
If it broke into unequal pieces one has to offeranother coconut. If after
seeing 4-5coconuts found rotten or uneven the priests normally would ask to
worship and come after few months and repeat.
If 2nd coconut breaks evenly indicates somedelay for solution of the problem
put forth.
For better education, marriage, health, coconuts arebroken at the nada.
Sometimes people can be seen with more than 20-30coconuts. Muttarukkal is done
only at specified times of the day. The coconuts are returned as prasadam.
Most place the halved and remaining coconuts in the storingplace provided after
taking one or two halves with them.
After worshiping the deity and muttarukkal otherdeities are worshipped and
circumambulation of the temple is done. I will continue in next part.
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