WELCOME SIR KR On Tue, 19 May 2026 at 15:40, APS Mani <[email protected]> wrote:
> Super addition, Mani > > On Tue, May 19, 2026 at 3:19 PM Rajaram Krishnamurthy < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Any differences that we might imagine to exist between the *advaita* taught >> by Sri Ramana and that taught by Sri Adi Sankara exist only in our >> understanding of their teachings, and not in the non-dual truth that they >> actually taught. One of the principal causes of our failure to recognise >> the essential oneness of the non-dual truth taught by all true sages or >> *jnanis* lies not in their teachings but only in the so-called >> "traditional" interpretation of their teachings. If we have read and >> understood the teachings of Sri Ramana correctly, and if we then read the >> teachings of Sri Adi Sankara and other ancient sages, we can clearly >> recognise the truth that those ancient sages taught the same means as Sri >> Ramana, namely the practice of *atma-vichara* or 'self-enquiry'. For >> example, in verse 11 of *Vivekachudamani*, which I have quoted and >> explained on page 429 of my book, *Happiness and the Art of Being* >> <https://www.sriramanateachings.org/happiness_art_being.html>, Sri Adi >> Sankara says: Action [*karma*] is [prescribed only] for [achieving] >> *chitta-suddhi* [purification of mind] and not for [attaining] >> *vastu-upalabdhi* [direct knowledge or experience of the reality, the >> true substance or essence, which is absolute being]. The attainment of >> [this non-dual experience of] the reality [can be achieved only] by >> *vichara* and not at all by [even] ten million actions. >> >> From this verse, it is clear not only that Sri Sankara taught that >> *vichara* or 'investigation' is the only means by which we can attain >> the non-dual experience of true self-knowledge, but also that such >> *vichara* is not any form of action. What is this action-free practice >> of *vichara* or 'investigation'? So long as our attention is directed >> towards anything other than our own self or essential being, it assumes the >> form of a thought or mental activity. Therefore the only form of attention >> or 'investigation' (*vichara*) which is not an action is self-attention, >> that is, attention or consciousness that rests in itself, its own essential >> being or 'am'-ness. >> >> This is the practice of *atma-vichara* or 'self-enquiry' that was >> taught both by Sri Sankara and by Sri Ramana as the sole means by which we >> can attain non-dual self-knowledge. In other words, since our goal is >> non-dual self-consciousness, the only means by which we can attain it is to >> cultivate or practise the same non-dual self-consciousness, which is not a >> state of action or 'doing', but only a state of just being (*summa >> iruppadu*). Meditation upon a *mahavayka* such as 'I am *brahman*' is >> an action, a process of thinking or imagination (*bhavana*), and hence >> it can never lead us to the non-dual state of just being. Such meditation >> may help to strengthen our conviction that we are *brahman*, the >> absolute reality, but once we are convinced of this truth we should give up >> attending to the thought 'I am *brahman*' and should instead attend only >> to our own essential being, our non-dual self-consciousness 'I am'. >> >> Advaitham was explained by me on several occasions. ADVAAILTHAM >> CONFIRMS ALL BUT ONE ARE MAYA. ALL ONE SEES PERCEIEVES SMELLS TOUCHES AND >> SENSED, ARE MERE MANIFESTATIONS FROM THAT ONE BRAHMAM. MAYA IN UNREAL AS >> LONG AS ONE IS DWELLING IN DUALITY. MAYA IS REAL, ONCE REALISATION SETS IN. >> WHO AM I IS THE INQUIRY. ADISHANKARA SPEAKS IN VIVEKA CHOODAMANI IN DETAIL >> WHICH RAMANA SPEAKS IN “WHO AM I” . PEOPLE WHO DID NOT UNDERSTAND MAYA >> PRONOUNCED AS SRI RAMANUJA DID ADI SHANKARA AS A BUDDHIST, PRONOUNCED >> RAMANA AS ATHEIST -BUDDIST. K RAJARAM IRS 19526 >> >> On Tue, 19 May 2026 at 11:41, Venkatachalam Subramanian < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> https://youtu.be/-cxARmxyB_I?si=xWNBU8u9KbUZF-Ws >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CAJgp%3Dds8v_B2JACGsS67BCArrDmAerG2VOH3N-a0uMUJJSLwOA%40mail.gmail.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CAJgp%3Dds8v_B2JACGsS67BCArrDmAerG2VOH3N-a0uMUJJSLwOA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/thatha_patty/CAL5XZordhr9UBaOBcgpkkGkOZTPpRQEuF%2BYtzOyMHkjTCjY4Ow%40mail.gmail.com.
