THANK YOU ALL AND WELCOME SIRS AND mADAM KR IRS 25526 On Sun, 24 May 2026 at 21:04, APS Mani <[email protected]> wrote:
> Excellent initiative. Will follow thoroughly. A great task indeed. Mani > > On Sun, May 24, 2026 at 8:22 PM srinivasan mani <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Excellent discussion, Rajaram Sir and thanks for sharing. >> Srinivasan S Mani MD >> >> Get Outlook for iOS <https://aka.ms/o0ukef> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* [email protected] < >> [email protected]> on behalf of Rajaram >> Krishnamurthy <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Sunday, May 24, 2026 12:22:42 AM >> *To:* Chittanandam V R <[email protected]>; Markendeya >> Yeddanapudi <[email protected]>; Dr Sundar <[email protected]>; >> Ravi mahajan <[email protected]>; Venkat Giri < >> [email protected]>; SRIRAMAJAYAM <[email protected]>; Mani APS < >> [email protected]>; Rangarajan T.N.C. <[email protected]>; >> Srinivasan Sridharan <[email protected]>; Mathangi K. Kumar < >> [email protected]>; Venkat Raman <[email protected]>; Rama < >> [email protected]>; Societyforservingseniors < >> [email protected]>; Sanathana group < >> [email protected]>; thatha patty < >> [email protected]>; Kerala Iyer <[email protected] >> > >> *Subject:* the article i made elsewhere I tried thro chat adopting YMji >> style and got thes: >> >> Group Discussion Topic “Can Ancient Indian Concepts of Vidyā Become the >> Basis for a Parallel Modern Education System?” Moderator Opening >> >> Today’s discussion is about the meaning of *Vidyā* in the Indian >> philosophical tradition and whether modern society can revive aspects of >> ancient education systems alongside present-day schooling. We will discuss: >> >> - What is true knowledge? >> - Can ancient educational ideals work today? >> - Is modern education incomplete without ethics and self-knowledge? >> - Can a “parallel education system” based on Sanātana traditions >> function in democratic India? >> >> ------------------------------ >> Speaker 1 – Traditionalist Perspective >> >> In ancient Indian thought, education was never merely for employment. >> Vidyā meant transformation of the human being. The Vedas, Upanishads, >> Bhagavad Gita, and many darśanas taught that knowledge must lead to >> discipline, clarity, ethical conduct, and liberation from ignorance. >> >> The traditional system combined: >> >> - philosophy, >> - logic, >> - grammar, >> - meditation, >> - arts, >> - sciences, >> - ecology, >> - and moral responsibility. >> >> Modern education produces specialists but often fails to produce balanced >> human beings. Stress, social conflict, corruption, and lack of inner >> direction show this failure. >> >> The Rigvedic ideal: >> >> “Saṅgacchadhvaṃ saṃvadadhvaṃ” >> “Move together, speak together” >> >> shows that education was intended to create social harmony and collective >> consciousness. >> >> Therefore, a parallel educational structure rooted in Vidyā is necessary. >> ------------------------------ >> Speaker 2 – Modern Democratic Perspective >> >> Ancient wisdom has value, but we cannot literally recreate a 7000 BCE >> educational structure in a modern constitutional society. >> >> Today’s world requires: >> >> - scientific research, >> - technological literacy, >> - equality before law, >> - women’s participation, >> - social mobility, >> - and universal access to education. >> >> Ancient systems also existed within hierarchical social conditions that >> modern democracies question. >> >> Instead of returning fully to the past, we should integrate valuable >> principles: >> >> - ethics, >> - meditation, >> - Sanskrit studies, >> - philosophy, >> - environmental awareness, >> - and value education >> into modern institutions. >> >> The goal should be synthesis, not reversal of history. >> ------------------------------ >> Speaker 3 – Philosophical Perspective >> >> The discussion must first define “knowledge.” >> >> Indian philosophy distinguishes: >> >> - *Vidyā* — true knowledge, >> - *Avidyā* — ignorance. >> >> The Upanishads say that knowing external objects alone is incomplete. >> True knowledge includes understanding the Self. >> >> Modern education largely trains memory, competition, and economic >> survival. Ancient systems asked: >> >> - Who am I? >> - What is consciousness? >> - What is right action? >> - What is liberation from suffering? >> >> Without these questions, civilization becomes materially advanced but >> psychologically unstable. >> >> Thus, the revival of Vidyā is not nostalgia; it is a philosophical >> necessity. >> ------------------------------ >> Speaker 4 – Critical Perspective >> >> We must also be cautious. >> >> Whenever ancient systems are discussed, political groups often >> reinterpret them for power struggles. Education should not become: >> >> - sectarian, >> - caste-centered, >> - politically manipulated, >> - or exclusionary. >> >> If a parallel system is created, it must remain: >> >> - open to all communities, >> - intellectually rigorous, >> - non-coercive, >> - and compatible with constitutional values. >> >> Otherwise, revival may become romanticism instead of meaningful reform. >> ------------------------------ >> Speaker 5 – Youth Perspective >> >> Students today face intense pressure: >> >> - exams, >> - competition, >> - anxiety, >> - unemployment, >> - and identity confusion. >> >> Many young people are searching for meaning beyond marks and salaries. >> >> If ancient educational values can provide: >> >> - concentration, >> - emotional balance, >> - ethical grounding, >> - respect for teachers, >> - and inner confidence, >> then they can help modern youth greatly. >> >> But the system must also prepare students for: >> >> - careers, >> - science, >> - global communication, >> - and technological realities. >> >> Young people need both roots and wings. >> ------------------------------ >> Conclusion by Moderator >> >> The discussion shows that Vidyā in the Indian tradition means much more >> than information. It includes: >> >> - wisdom, >> - character, >> - self-knowledge, >> - social harmony, >> - and disciplined living. >> >> While a complete return to ancient educational structures may not be >> practical, many participants agree that modern education lacks >> philosophical and ethical depth. >> >> The challenge before society is: >> >> - how to preserve civilizational wisdom, >> - while remaining inclusive, scientific, democratic, and >> future-oriented. >> >> The debate therefore is not simply about the past versus the present, but >> about the future direction of human education itself. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Sanathana dharma and science" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To view this discussion visit >> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sanathana-dharma-and-science/CAL5XZopLwEfCxYP9qMa4R%2BR%3DRpbitWERjf8Yc6g75G4K30iVCA%40mail.gmail.com >> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sanathana-dharma-and-science/CAL5XZopLwEfCxYP9qMa4R%2BR%3DRpbitWERjf8Yc6g75G4K30iVCA%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >> . >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Sanathana dharma and science" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sanathana-dharma-and-science/CAOCR2sovfNOHnPB-LAWbmKNUWTLwS-xwhNx3QGCOSpe8GZk0gQ%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sanathana-dharma-and-science/CAOCR2sovfNOHnPB-LAWbmKNUWTLwS-xwhNx3QGCOSpe8GZk0gQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Thatha_Patty" group. 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