On 17 December 2012 17:11, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farr...@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
>
>
> On 12/17/2012 05:08 PM, Ben Laurie wrote:
>> On 17 December 2012 17:03, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farr...@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/17/2012 04:51 PM, Ben Laurie wrote:
>>>>> (2) abstract: "domain owners or their agents" makes it sound
>>>>> like I might have to pay to monitor; be good to re-assure that
>>>>> no such constraint is planned. (Such re-assurance doesn't need
>>>>> to be in the abstract, arguably not even in the draft, but
>>>>> also arguably ought be somewhere.) While its none of the
>>>>> IETF's business who charges for what in general, in this case,
>>>>> where there has been ongoing negative comment on the impact of
>>>>> PKI business models on Internet security, I do think it'd be
>>>>> good for the authors of proposals to be clear how they think
>>>>> they're affecting such charging issues.  Personally, I guess
>>>>> that since EFF and some academics have been able to afford to
>>>>> populate large databases of TLS server certs, this shouldn't
>>>>> become a huge barrier, but it could in principle impose new
>>>>> subscription costs or constraints on TLS servers or even
>>>>> clients and that might not be a good plan.
>>>>
>>>> Well, a log isn't much use unless it is public - but I don't really
>>>> know how to say much about who charges for what. We can state our
>>>> intent to run free services, but presumably not in an RFC. So ... I
>>>> don't really know how to address this.
>>>
>>> Yeah that's fair I guess. Maybe if it said that the intent
>>> of the RFC is that logs be public & open and SHOULD NOT require
>>> subscriptions or authentication for basic operation?
>>
>> Surely we can't make that kind of thing normative?
>
> I guess it you can try say anything:-)
>
> I wonder what DNS RFCs say or maybe we all just take it
> for granted.

DNS isn't free, so not sure what we take for granted?
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