On 17 December 2012 17:11, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farr...@cs.tcd.ie> wrote: > > > On 12/17/2012 05:08 PM, Ben Laurie wrote: >> On 17 December 2012 17:03, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farr...@cs.tcd.ie> wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 12/17/2012 04:51 PM, Ben Laurie wrote: >>>>> (2) abstract: "domain owners or their agents" makes it sound >>>>> like I might have to pay to monitor; be good to re-assure that >>>>> no such constraint is planned. (Such re-assurance doesn't need >>>>> to be in the abstract, arguably not even in the draft, but >>>>> also arguably ought be somewhere.) While its none of the >>>>> IETF's business who charges for what in general, in this case, >>>>> where there has been ongoing negative comment on the impact of >>>>> PKI business models on Internet security, I do think it'd be >>>>> good for the authors of proposals to be clear how they think >>>>> they're affecting such charging issues. Personally, I guess >>>>> that since EFF and some academics have been able to afford to >>>>> populate large databases of TLS server certs, this shouldn't >>>>> become a huge barrier, but it could in principle impose new >>>>> subscription costs or constraints on TLS servers or even >>>>> clients and that might not be a good plan. >>>> >>>> Well, a log isn't much use unless it is public - but I don't really >>>> know how to say much about who charges for what. We can state our >>>> intent to run free services, but presumably not in an RFC. So ... I >>>> don't really know how to address this. >>> >>> Yeah that's fair I guess. Maybe if it said that the intent >>> of the RFC is that logs be public & open and SHOULD NOT require >>> subscriptions or authentication for basic operation? >> >> Surely we can't make that kind of thing normative? > > I guess it you can try say anything:-) > > I wonder what DNS RFCs say or maybe we all just take it > for granted.
DNS isn't free, so not sure what we take for granted? _______________________________________________ therightkey mailing list therightkey@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/therightkey