On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 6:38 PM, Jeremy Rowley 
<jeremy.row...@digicert.com<mailto:jeremy.row...@digicert.com>> wrote:
I'm confused as well.  Does that mean Android will start showing an EV 
indicator?

From: therightkey 
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Behalf Of Wayne Thayer
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Hi Wayne,

Considering we already do not indicate EV on Android, nor have we ever, I don't 
think this perceived loss of functionality is as significant as you may believe.

Further, considering the very real and distinct performance characteristics of 
mobile (radio warmups, RTTs, initcwnds), the idea of fetching OCSP, or, worse, 
CRLs - especially when some CAs have CRLs that are quite large (20+ MB) - in 
order to assure the EV display is... non-ideal. So again, the EV indicator on 
mobile is not as strong or as present as it may be on desktop platforms.

In that case, what does this statement mean?


Chrome for mobile platforms will cease to show EV indicators for certificates 
that are not CT qualified according to the criteria below.

It means that for any CAs that hope to be recognized as EV on Chrome for mobile 
platforms (which include iOS), implementing CT by the dates outlined is seen as 
a requirement for such treatment. We wanted to specifically call attention to 
this - the whitelist is seen as a temporary measure for Desktop, but given the 
unique characteristics of mobile platforms, we're pursuing this requirement at 
a more aggressive pace.

While Chrome for Android - and the Chrome-based WebView, as the WebView 
preceding it - do not provide special treatment for EV, any future plans for EV 
indications on these platforms have incorporated the above requirements and 
dates.

In that case, my original objection stands - this policy retroactively 
downgrades existing EV certificates if and when a mobile platform chooses to 
implement an EV indicator. There are certainly times when it's necessary to 
apply a new policy to existing certificates to protect relying parties, but IMO 
this isn't one of them.
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