Thanks Dave, I didn't know that. A little more experimentation and I have noticed that the position of the / determines where the name appears in the sorted names lists. So team "Tim 'The Beast'/Bloggs" dog makes Tim appear in alphabetical order sorted using 'Bloggs', whereas team "Tim/'The Beast' Bloggs" dog put him at the start of the list as the ' character is sorted ahead of A.
I've put this into the Tutorial. Does anyone know how to include double-quotes in a name? I can't seem to escape the double-quote character. Footleg On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 12:34 AM Dave Clucas <dave.clucas at icloud.com> wrote: > Note that the team members names are only allowed to contain one space > character, so use hypens for double barreled names or your project will > generate an error when you try to compile it. > > You can also use the escape character "/" to allow as may spaces as you > want e.g. team "Giles /St. John Cuthbert Junior" > > Dave Clucas > daveclucas.com > sarawak-caves.com > dave.clucas at icloud.com <daveclucas at icloud.com> > > *Exploring the World* - One cave at a time > > > On 16 Mar 2016, at 04:32, therion-request at speleo.sk wrote: > > Send Therion mailing list submissions to > therion at speleo.sk > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > therion-request at speleo.sk > > You can reach the person managing the list at > therion-owner at speleo.sk > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Therion digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and Layouts (Footleg) > 2. Re: Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and Layouts > (Martin Sluka) > 3. Re: Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and Layouts > (Footleg) > 4. Re: Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and Layouts > (Martin Sluka) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 14:45:46 +0000 > From: Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com> > Subject: [Therion] Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and > Layouts > To: List for Therion users <therion at speleo.sk> > Message-ID: > <CAJkGg4mK7DPP47LVkft8++iBN2hVOVu+VV_a98XdNhsA6ps7wA at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hot off the press, I have published another update to my Therion Tutorial. > Since the last revision in November 2015 I have simplified the > recommendations on larger project data structures (I realised my own > projects were not following my advice I had written!), and added a new > lesson on defining layouts. > > As always, feedback and comments are welcomed. But don't be disheartened if > I have not yet incorporated suggestions made already into this latest > revision. I just wanted to get this initial layouts chapter out there as > several people asked for it. I'll take the time to read all the feedback > I've received already and merge it into the tutorial in time. > > Download here (or follow the link from the Therion Wiki page): > *http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/ > <http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/>* > > Footleg > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mailman.speleo.sk/pipermail/therion/attachments/20160315/e8fec669/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 15:34:01 +0000 (GMT) > From: Martin Sluka <martinsluka at mac.com> > Subject: [Therion] Re: Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and > Layouts > To: Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com> > Cc: therion at speleo.sk > Message-ID: <202dcf19-8fcc-4845-a465-f7a7f0a795cc at me.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > > Hi Footleg, > > you don't show using right click with mouse when drawing scraps. It is > much faster way. > > Drawing line - one may not draw beziers directly. It is possible to draw > only points which are not "smooth" and then use "Convert to curve" feature > from "Edit line" menu. There are only small correction necessary. > > The problem with transparency is that all viewers using Apple library and > several others (Sumatra) ignore group transparency which is in definition > of PDF. So it is bug. (According to?Martin Budaj). > > m.s. > > On Mar 15, 2016, at 03:46 PM, Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com> wrote: > > Hot off the press, I have published another update to my Therion Tutorial. > Since the last revision in November 2015 I have simplified the > recommendations on larger project data structures (I realised my own > projects were not following my advice I had written!), and added a new > lesson on defining layouts. > > As always, feedback and comments are welcomed. But don't be disheartened > if I have not yet incorporated suggestions made already into this latest > revision. I just wanted to get this initial layouts chapter out there as > several people asked for it. I'll take the time to read all the feedback > I've received already and merge it into the tutorial in time. > > Download here (or follow the link from the Therion Wiki page): > http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/ > > Footleg > _______________________________________________ > Therion mailing list > Therion at speleo.sk > http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mailman.speleo.sk/pipermail/therion/attachments/20160315/217e4c44/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 20:18:29 +0000 > From: Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [Therion] Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and > Layouts > To: Martin Sluka <martinsluka at mac.com> > Cc: therion at speleo.sk > Message-ID: > <CAJkGg4nySJYpkD8pn8OgBy0NqiVBdYHvU6xxG-V=gKmJBxjDtA at mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Hi Martin, > > Thanks for these points. Can you clarify what you mean by using right mouse > click when drawing scraps? I thought I covered the right-mouse menus for > setting line options. Was there something specific I've missed, or not > clear enough mention of context menus when drawing? > > I'm not sure where group transparency is applied in the PDFs. I see > transparency working for overlying passages and for boulders drawn over > area fills. At least I see it in Sumatra and FoxIt readers, but not in > Adobe Acrobat Reader. Can you give examples of features where I can check > whether it is working? > > Convert to curve is a good one. I'll find a place to add that in as I've > seen a few people struggle with drawing beziers directly when we run out > training courses. > > Thanks, > Footleg > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 3:34 PM Martin Sluka <martinsluka at mac.com> wrote: > > Hi Footleg, > > you don't show using right click with mouse when drawing scraps. It is > much faster way. > > Drawing line - one may not draw beziers directly. It is possible to draw > only points which are not "smooth" and then use "Convert to curve" feature > from "Edit line" menu. There are only small correction necessary. > > The problem with transparency is that all viewers using Apple library and > several others (Sumatra) ignore group transparency which is in definition > of PDF. So it is bug. (According to Martin Budaj). > > m.s. > > On Mar 15, 2016, at 03:46 PM, Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com> wrote: > > Hot off the press, I have published another update to my Therion Tutorial. > Since the last revision in November 2015 I have simplified the > recommendations on larger project data structures (I realised my own > projects were not following my advice I had written!), and added a new > lesson on defining layouts. > > As always, feedback and comments are welcomed. But don't be disheartened > if I have not yet incorporated suggestions made already into this latest > revision. I just wanted to get this initial layouts chapter out there as > several people asked for it. I'll take the time to read all the feedback > I've received already and merge it into the tutorial in time. > > Download here (or follow the link from the Therion Wiki page): > *http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/ > <http://wscc.darkgem.com/footleg/therion/>* > > Footleg > > _______________________________________________ > Therion mailing list > Therion at speleo.sk > http://mailman.speleo.sk/mailman/listinfo/therion > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://mailman.speleo.sk/pipermail/therion/attachments/20160315/9afcfacc/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2016 22:15:47 +0100 > From: Martin Sluka <martinsluka at mac.com> > Subject: Re: [Therion] Therion Tutorial Update - Data Structures and > Layouts > To: Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com> > Cc: therion at speleo.sk > Message-ID: <C477CA40-AA3F-4BBE-AB20-2A8A1498DB87 at mac.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > > 15. 3. 2016 v 21:18, Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com>: > > Hi Martin, > > Thanks for these points. Can you clarify what you mean by using right > mouse click when drawing scraps? I thought I covered the right-mouse menus > for setting line options. Was there something specific I've missed, or not > clear enough mention of context menus when drawing? > > > I prefer last time right click menus. It is really faster. I?ll send you > screenshots I made. > > I'm not sure where group transparency is applied in the PDFs. I see > transparency working for overlying passages and for boulders drawn over > area fills. At least I see it in Sumatra and FoxIt readers, but not in > Adobe Acrobat Reader. Can you give examples of features where I can check > whether it is working? > > > It is exactly as you wrote. Reader is correct, others with transparency > for blocks have bug. Including Mac Prerview, Fast Preview and others Mac > viewers. It is quite pity, because Fast Preview is really fast. > > Convert to curve is a good one. I'll find a place to add that in as I've > seen a few people struggle with drawing beziers directly when we run out > training courses. > > > m. > > Thanks, > Footleg > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 3:34 PM Martin Sluka <martinsluka at mac.com <mailto: > martinsluka at mac.com>> wrote: > Hi Footleg, > > you don't show using right click with mouse when drawing scraps. It is > much faster way. > > Drawing line - one may not draw beziers directly. It is possible to draw > only points which are not "smooth" and then use "Convert to curve" feature > from "Edit line" menu. There are only small correction necessary. > > The problem with transparency is that all viewers using Apple library and > several others (Sumatra) ignore group transparency which is in definition > of PDF. So it is bug. (According to Martin Budaj). > > m.s. > > On Mar 15, 2016, at 03:46 PM, Footleg <drfootleg at gmail.com <mailto: > drfootleg at gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hot off the press, I have published another update to my Therion Tutorial. > Since the last revision in November 2015 I have simplified the > recommendations on larger project data structures (I realised my own > projects were not following my advice I had written!), and added a new > lesson on defining layouts. > > As always, feedback and comments are welcomed. But don't be disheartened > if I have not yet incorporated suggestions made already into this latest > revision. I just wanted to get this initial layouts chapter out there as > several people asked for it. 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