Thank you for your response, the fresh installation to the company computer without admin rights done with success. great work.
S pozdravom Ing. Michal Danko On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 10:13 PM, Владимир Георгиев via Therion < therion@speleo.sk> wrote: > Michal > > The current installer should offer an option to install only for the > current user, which will not require admin rights. > > But as Bruce mentioned, the current installer is not quite intelligent and > it is very easy to mess the locations if you have an older version > installed for all users (in Program Files) and install the newer one for > the current user. These are different locations and different registry > entries. > > Most of the suggestions so far were to revert the installer to the > previous one, which had only the All users option and required admin > rights. I think you are the first one to actually say that you need a > non-admin installer. > > Making it admin only as before is the easiest thing to do, and "tried and > true" like Bruce said :) > > If I make the installer more intelligent it could detect if the app is > already installed in a particular location for All/Current. And if it is > installed, it will reuse the location without asking for it. This way there > should be no conflicts. To change the install type users would have to > first uninstall. This will not be very hard, but still will require some > testing and I don't have the time lately. > I'll see if I can test it next week. Otherwise I will revert the installer > code to the previous one, but building and publishing the actual installer > files is up to Stacho and Martin. > > Vladimir > > On Mon, Oct 16, 2017 at 9:20 PM, Bruce Mutton via Therion < > therion@speleo.sk> wrote: > >> Just a reminder, >> >> As far as I know, the current installation files mess up your Windows >> registry and both the installation folders if you have an existing >> installation in the ‘all users’ area and then you install over that with >> ‘only for me’. >> >> If you have a previous installation on a Windows machine, and you want to >> keep all your customised settings (ie without uninstalling the existing >> installation first), select 'Install for all users', and NOT 'Install only >> for me'. Otherwise you'll need to manually hack the registry to unpick the >> carnage. >> >> I posted about this on 30May2017, but for some reason it does not show up >> in the Mail Archive. I’ll post it again in parallel with this message. >> >> >> >> I’ll put my vote in again for the simple tried and true ‘install for all >> users’. Aside from the big issues (registry carnage), you know your >> installation files and settings will always be in C:\Program Files… >> >> >> >> Bruce >> >> >> >> *From:* Therion [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] *On Behalf Of *Michal >> Danko via Therion >> *Sent:* Monday, 16 October 2017 8:33 PM >> *To:* List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk> >> *Cc:* Michal Danko <michal.da...@gmail.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [Therion] Therion] Therion 5.4.1 Windows Installer >> incomplete installs >> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> any news about installer without admin rights? >> >> For my it would be very handy because i use sometimes company pc without >> admin... >> >> >> S pozdravom >> >> Ing. Michal Danko >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 2:58 PM, Владимир Георгиев via Therion < >> therion@speleo.sk> wrote: >> >> I got your idea :) >> >> That means making the installer non-admin only, so it will always install >> the shortcuts and registry entries for the Current user only. And the >> default suggested install location will be in the user's AppData folder, >> not in Program files. >> >> >> The theoretical Therion user who shares a computer with another Therion >> user will have to install their own copy :) >> >> Vlad >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Footleg via Therion <therion@speleo.sk> >> wrote: >> >> I have yet to meet a Therion user who knows another Therion user who they >> share a computer with. So I would be happy with install for Current user >> only. >> >> >> >> Footleg >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 1:15 PM Владимир Георгиев via Therion < >> therion@speleo.sk> wrote: >> >> Yes, the location is flexible. I think it was that way in the old >> installer too. >> >> But there are also global Start menu shortcuts and registry entries that >> go into HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE. For those the installer needs admin rights. If >> it doesn't have them, it comes down again to the All users vs Current user >> problem. >> >> Vlad >> >> >> >> On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 3:08 PM, Footleg via Therion <therion@speleo.sk> >> wrote: >> >> Usually a Windows application installer offers the option to install to a >> location of the users choosing. If this was done then users wanting to >> install without admin privileges could choose a location they have write >> permissions for. Otherwise users can choose to just click through 'Next' on >> each page to accept the default install under Program Files. >> >> >> >> Footleg >> >> On Mon, Jul 17, 2017 at 9:28 AM Bruce Mutton via Therion < >> therion@speleo.sk> wrote: >> >> It is outside of my area of expertise, however: >> >> - No 1 seems dangerous, at the whim of future MS updates and there >> are bound to be people with non-standard setups, or very old Windows >> versions, any of which might break something that tries to be too clever. >> - No 2 is OK by me. >> >> I don’t think I would use a ‘non-installed’ version. The installer is >> compact, quick, easy and has proved versatile and reliable over at least 10 >> years. I rely on file associations heavily, to tweak my system to make >> Therion workflow ‘comfortable’. >> >> Bruce >> >> >> >> *From:* Therion [mailto:therion-boun...@speleo.sk] *On Behalf Of *???????? >> ???????? via Therion >> *Sent:* Monday, 17 July 2017 7:55 PM >> >> >> *To:* List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk> >> >> *Cc:* Владимир Георгиев <vld.georg...@gmail.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [Therion] Therion] Therion 5.4.1 Windows Installer >> incomplete installs >> >> >> >> About the installer problems... >> >> Since I did the installer changes, here is that comes to mind: >> 1) I could try to make it more intelligent and to detect if there is an >> existing install location (all users or current user) and to install in the >> same one without the "All/Current user" prompt. This will probably not >> prevent all possible problems though. >> >> 2) Another solution would be to revert those changes and keep only the >> "All users" option, which requires admin privileges. This is how the older >> installers worked and always installed in Program Files. >> >> In addition to that, there could be a portable edition of Therion, which >> is distributed as a ZIP file and the user would only need to extract it in >> a folder. There would be no association to the TH, TH2 and THCONFIG file >> extensions of course. Currently the code reads the install location from >> the Win registry, but it could be made to search for files in the current >> folder. >> >> Does anyone have an opinion on what would be most useful? >> >> Would you use the portable option, or the "Current user" installer? >> >> Vladimir >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Therion mailing list >> Therion@speleo.sk >> https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Therion mailing list > Therion@speleo.sk > https://mailman.speleo.sk/listinfo/therion > >
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