Bruce, have you check Panasonics products? They produce military grade rugged 
tablets too. 

Martin

Odesláno z iPhonu

3. 11. 2018 v 6:02, Bruce Mutton via Therion <therion@speleo.sk>:

> Thanks for the insights Pavel.
> I can see those side buttons are in exactly the wrong place.
> I too would be after the Windows version, I understand the Windows ones can 
> run Android, but not vice versa.
> So before proceeding I will check PocketTopo speed, stylus and water 
> response.  All our caves are such that devices are constantly wet and muddy 
> while surveying. That the Nautiz display responds badly to water surprizes 
> me, as our Trimble Recons have never responded to water (except once when 
> swimming), and that assumption is the reason I am looking at them.
> Regards
> Bruce
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Therion <therion-boun...@speleo.sk> On Behalf Of Pavel Herich via 
> Therion
> Sent: Saturday, 3 November 2018 03:18
> To: List for Therion users <therion@speleo.sk>
> Cc: Pavel Herich <her...@speleodd.sk>
> Subject: Re: [Therion] Nautiz X8
> 
> Hello,
> i´m using it for more than two years now, 3 to 15 times per month. My device 
> is built on windows, so there is PocketTopo installed. For me it works great, 
> strong battery, quite big screen, I use to clean it just directly under the 
> flowing water. But on the other hand, surprisingly PocketTopo turned out to 
> run significantly slower than on the previous, old and cheap PDA (means menu 
> reactions, context menu calling and so; it doesn´t affect bleutooth 
> connection or any other core functionalities - anyway it could be just some 
> settings error). Then, I had to replace stylus, which was very wide and not 
> draw friendly, instead I use thin stylus from old PDA (metal core), which 
> doesn´t works perfectly, but it´s much better to work with. As well, the 
> screen is not so precise for drawing than on my old PDA, partly perhaps 
> because of bigger screen, but I think the technology has been changed (you 
> can use only plastic, thin protection of the screen to be able to use old and 
> precise stylus). 
> Also, the two buttons (arrows) on the left side of the device I found very 
> annoying - there are right there, where one would hold the device, they 
> manage volume, which is very necessary to work with inside the cave...; I 
> will try to seal them once. And last thing, it´s necessary to protect screen 
> from drops of water, even small ones are registered and making some effect on 
> screen.
> So that´s all troubles I noticed, otherwise you can count with this device 
> anywhere.
> But to use it just to draw a raw sketch in PocketTopo or Topodroid, it´s bit 
> expensive (f.e. DigiTerra explorer - basic GIS software can be instaled).
> Pavel
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Dňa 2018-10-31 19:06 Bruce Mutton via Therion napísal(a):
>> Good Morning.
>> 
>> Does anyone have experience with these?
>> 
>> Nautiz X8
>> 
>> https://www.handheldgroup.com/rugged-computer/handheld-pda/nautiz-x8/#
>> tab=tecspec
>> [1]
>> 
>> http://ruggedpcreview.com/3_handhelds_handheldus_nautiz_x8.html [2]
>> 
>> https://www.handheldgroup.com/rugged-solutions/Customer-Solutions/naut
>> iz-x8-extreme-environment-surveying-with-rugged-handhelds/
>> [3]
>> 
>> Bruce
>> 
>> Links:
>> ------
>> [1]
>> https://www.handheldgroup.com/rugged-computer/handheld-pda/nautiz-x8/#
>> tab=tecspec [2] 
>> http://ruggedpcreview.com/3_handhelds_handheldus_nautiz_x8.html
>> [3]
>> https://www.handheldgroup.com/rugged-solutions/Customer-Solutions/naut
>> iz-x8-extreme-environment-surveying-with-rugged-handhelds/
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