Hi Bruce,
as you write, it´s enough to wipe it barehanded, very fast once or two
times and screen works again, not necessary to dry or clean it
perfectly. I have been using the device in many slovak caves, and I
haven´t found any place, where would be impossible to draw a sketch,
just sometimes I had to protect the screen with whole body like a
serpent twists around the branch. I just wonder how it would be in some
really rainy cave.
Hope I have answered your questions, good luck
Pavel
Dňa 2018-11-04 23:35 Bruce Mutton via Therion napísal(a):
Hi Pavel
It might be difficult for me to get device to test before buying, so I
just want to clarify the significance of this issue that you
mentioned...
"it´s necessary to protect screen from drops of water, even small
ones are registered and making some effect on screen".
You are using it a lot, as you mention, and I assume that you are
using the device underground. Therefore I assume that from time to
time water droplets, wet mud and sand on the display are inevitable.
It happens for me all the time, and I wipe with my hand, lick the
display clean (yuk), or wash it in a stream or from my water bottle.
* Does this scenario make the X8 unusable for drawing and typing, or
just mildly annoying?
* What about wiping it with a cloth after washing it. Does that fix
it?
(I have a non-caving device, that once wet, needs to be removed from
the humid environment completely before the display will respond
correctly - drying with a non-absorbent cloth is not sufficient - I
want to make sure the X8 is not like this).
Regards
Bruce
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Subject: [Therion] Nautiz X8
Thanks for the insights Pavel.
I can see those side buttons are in exactly the wrong place.
I too would be after the Windows version, I understand the Windows
ones can run Android, but not vice versa.
So before proceeding I will check PocketTopo speed, stylus and water
response. All our caves are such that devices are constantly wet and
muddy while surveying. That the Nautiz display responds badly to water
surprizes me, as our Trimble Recons have never responded to water
(except once when swimming), and that assumption is the reason I am
looking at them.
Regards
Bruce
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From: Therion <therion-boun...@speleo.sk> On Behalf Of Pavel Herich
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Sent: Saturday, 3 November 2018 03:18
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Cc: Pavel Herich <her...@speleodd.sk>
Subject: Re: [Therion] Nautiz X8
Hello,
i´m using it for more than two years now, 3 to 15 times per month. My
device is built on windows, so there is PocketTopo installed. For me
it works great, strong battery, quite big screen, I use to clean it
just directly under the flowing water. But on the other hand,
surprisingly PocketTopo turned out to run significantly slower than on
the previous, old and cheap PDA (means menu reactions, context menu
calling and so; it doesn´t affect bleutooth connection or any other
core functionalities - anyway it could be just some settings error).
Then, I had to replace stylus, which was very wide and not draw
friendly, instead I use thin stylus from old PDA (metal core), which
doesn´t works perfectly, but it´s much better to work with. As well,
the screen is not so precise for drawing than on my old PDA, partly
perhaps because of bigger screen, but I think the technology has been
changed (you can use only plastic, thin protection of the screen to be
able to use old and precise stylus).
Also, the two buttons (arrows) on the left side of the device I found
very annoying - there are right there, where one would hold the
device, they manage volume, which is very necessary to work with
inside the cave...; I will try to seal them once. And last thing,
it´s necessary to protect screen from drops of water, even small ones
are registered and making some effect on screen.
So that´s all troubles I noticed, otherwise you can count with this
device anywhere.
But to use it just to draw a raw sketch in PocketTopo or Topodroid,
it´s bit expensive (f.e. DigiTerra explorer - basic GIS software can
be instaled).
Pavel
Dňa 2018-10-31 19:06 Bruce Mutton via Therion napísal(a):
Good Morning.
Does anyone have experience with these?
Nautiz X8
https://www.handheldgroup.com/rugged-computer/handheld-pda/nautiz-x8/#tab=tecspec[1]
http://ruggedpcreview.com/3_handhelds_handheldus_nautiz_x8.html [2]
https://www.handheldgroup.com/rugged-solutions/Customer-Solutions/nautiz-x8-extreme-environment-surveying-with-rugged-handhelds
Bruce
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