I wondered if that would work. I assumed BWidget is registered in a
config file somewhere, so I never tried it.
According to what I have read, there are some significant compatibility
issues between Tcl 8.6 and 9.0.
It is a sure bet that this problem will come up again. Is there any way
to modify the make process so that it figures out which is the right
executable for wish, then writes xtherion as appropriate?
===============
Bill Gee
On 4/22/25 13:36, Stacho Mudrak wrote:
Thanks for the update. Also copying bwidget1.9.7 from tcl8.6 folder to
tcl9.0 should help too.
S.
On Tue, 22 Apr 2025 at 19:38, Bill Gee <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
And another update! I found a way to work around the problem. I
changed the first line in /usr/local/bin/xtherion to read:
#!/usr/bin/env wish8
That works. xTherion now launches without error.
===============
Bill Gee
On 4/22/25 12:24, Bill Gee wrote:
> Yet another update: There is a note at Fedora Project regarding the
> upgrade to Tcl version 9. It mentions bwidget. I do not see
anything
> here about how to make something run in Tcl 8.
>
> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/TclTk9.0 <https://
fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/TclTk9.0>
>
> I tried modifying the xtherion program so the first line is
>
> #!/usr/bin/env tclsh8
>
> Did not work, though it gives a different error message.
>
> ===============
> Bill Gee
>
> On 4/22/25 06:55, Bill Gee wrote:
>> Resending to the group, since this might be of general interest.
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Forwarded Message --------
>> Subject: Re: [Therion] Fedora 42 xtherion will not start
>> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2025 14:36:16 -0500
>> From: Bill Gee <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> To: Stacho Mudrak <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>
>> Hi Stacho -
>>
>> No luck. I included below a directory listing of the bwidget
package
>> directory, if that helps. There are multiple tcl directories on
the
>> system. tcl8.6 is the directory used by the Fedora 42 package.
It is
>> the only one of the tcl directories that has anything regarding
bwidget.
>>
>> Unfortunately, I no longer have a Fedora 41 system to compare.
I do
>> have a system running X instead of Wayland. That system also has
>> Therion 6.3.3. It shows the same results, which is what I expected.
>>
>> =====================
>> bgee@main2:~$ wish
>> % package require BWidget
>> can't find package BWidget
>> % package require bwidget
>> can't find package bwidget
>> %
>>
>> bgee@main2:~$ ll -d /usr/share/tcl*
>> drwxr-xr-x. 5 root root 4096 Feb 1 18:00 /usr/share/tcl8
>> drwxr-xr-x. 7 root root 4096 Apr 19 14:57 /usr/share/tcl8.6
>> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Apr 19 14:58 /usr/share/tcl9
>> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Apr 19 14:58 /usr/share/tcl9.0
>>
>> bgee@main2:~$ dir /usr/share/tcl8.6/bwidget1.9.7/
>> arrow.tcl dialog.tcl images listbox.tcl
>> panelframe.tcl scrollview.tcl tree.tcl
>> bitmap.tcl dragsite.tcl init.tcl mainframe.tcl
>> passwddlg.tcl scrollw.tcl utils.tcl
>> buttonbox.tcl dropsite.tcl labelentry.tcl messagedlg.tcl
>> pkgIndex.tcl separator.tcl widget.tcl
>> button.tcl dynhelp.tcl labelframe.tcl notebook.tcl
>> progressbar.tcl spinbox.tcl wizard.tcl
>> color.tcl entry.tcl label.tcl pagesmgr.tcl
>> progressdlg.tcl statusbar.tcl xpm2image.tcl
>> combobox.tcl font.tcl lang panedw.tcl
>> scrollframe.tcl titleframe.tcl
>>
>> =====================
>>
>> Update! I did a bit more poking around and discovered I have two
>> different versions of tcl installed. They are 8.6 and 9.0.
>>
>> bgee@main2:~$ ll /usr/bin/tclsh*
>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Feb 1 18:00 /usr/bin/tclsh -> tclsh9.0
>> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 Feb 1 18:00 /usr/bin/tclsh8 ->
tclsh8.6
>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 11728 Feb 1 18:00 /usr/bin/tclsh8.6
>> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 11720 Feb 1 18:00 /usr/bin/tclsh9.0
>>
>> If I start tclsh8 and then do "package require BWidget" it responds
>> with a proper version number. Running tclsh9 fails.
>>
>> ===============
>> Bill Gee
>>
>> On 4/21/25 13:50, Stacho Mudrak wrote:
>>> If you just run wish and try to import the bwidget package,
does it
>>> work?
>>>
>>> On my system:
>>>
>>> user@localhost:~$ wish
>>> % package require BWidget
>>> 1.9.14
>>>
>>> S.
>>>
>>> On Mon, 21 Apr 2025 at 19:25, Bill Gee <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>
>>> <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I upgraded to Fedora 42 over the weekend. Trying to start
xtherion
>>> gives a message about BWidget missing. However, it is
installed.
>>>
>>> =====================
>>> bgee@main2:/public/document/CaveSurveys/CaveSpringCave$
therion --
>>> version
>>> therion 6.3.4+dev (compiled on 2025-04-09)
>>> - using Proj 9.6.0, compiled against 9.4.1
>>>
>>> bgee@main2:/public/document/CaveSurveys/CaveSpringCave$
xtherion
>>> Error in startup script: can't find package BWidget
>>> while executing
>>> "package require BWidget"
>>> (file "/usr/local/bin/xtherion" line 12925)
>>>
>>> bgee@main2:/public/document/CaveSurveys/CaveSpringCave$ su -
>>> Password:
>>>
>>> root@main2:~# dnf search bwidget
>>> Updating and loading repositories:
>>> Repositories loaded.
>>> Matched fields: name (exact)
>>> bwidget.noarch: Extended widget set for Tk
>>> Matched fields: name, summary
>>> kf5-kjobwidgets-devel.i686: Development files for kf5-
kjobwidgets
>>> kf5-kjobwidgets-devel.x86_64: Development files for kf5-
>>> kjobwidgets
>>> kf6-kjobwidgets-devel.i686: Development files for kf6-
kjobwidgets
>>> kf6-kjobwidgets-devel.x86_64: Development files for kf6-
>>> kjobwidgets
>>> kf6-kjobwidgets-doc.noarch: Developer Documentation
files for
>>> kf6-kjobwidgets
>>> Matched fields: name
>>> kf5-kjobwidgets.i686: KDE Frameworks 5 Tier 2 addon for
KJobs
>>> kf5-kjobwidgets.x86_64: KDE Frameworks 5 Tier 2 addon
for KJobs
>>> kf6-kjobwidgets.i686: KDE Frameworks 6 Tier 2 addon for
KJobs
>>> kf6-kjobwidgets.x86_64: KDE Frameworks 6 Tier 2 addon
for KJobs
>>>
>>> root@main2:~# dnf install bwidget
>>> Updating and loading repositories:
>>> Repositories loaded.
>>> Package "bwidget-1.9.7-24.fc42.noarch" is already installed.
>>>
>>> Nothing to do.
>>> root@main2:~#
>>> ========================
>>>
>>> I compiled Therion while still on Fedora 41. Should I
recompile?
>>>
>>> -- ===============
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