In theory, yes - except there's been cases where people are setting different 
db connection details either side of the define_index block, so the context *at 
the time of definition* matters. I guess it'd be possible to have a flag set 
when that rake task is called, and toggle accordingly - though that's just 
another layer of complication.

Will keep all of this in mind as I work through the rewrite.

-- 
Pat

On 09/11/2011, at 1:42 AM, nico wrote:

> Wouldn't it be sufficient for thinking sphinx to do the db stuff only
> when running the indexing tasks?
> 
> 
> On 8 Nov., 12:19, Pat Allan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> It's probably because the Observers are loaded, which means the models are 
>> loaded, which means the index definitions are loaded - and they check the db 
>> settings at the time of definition.
>> 
>> --
>> Pat
>> 
>> On 08/11/2011, at 5:06 PM, nico wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> Yep, that works... ;-)
>> 
>>> On 8 Nov., 11:06, nico <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> Ah, okay, thanks Pat, that sounds like a workaround! Will try it out.
>> 
>>>> The weird thing is that the db requirements are only there when using
>>>> the observers. I don't understand why...
>> 
>>>> Nico
>> 
>>>> On 7 Nov., 19:16, Pat Allan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>>>> Sorry Nico, nothing yet… it's hard to avoid the db requirements.
>> 
>>>>> Maybe you can only set observers if ENV['RAILS_GROUPS'] isn't set to 
>>>>> assets?
>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Pat
>> 
>>>>> On 07/11/2011, at 4:25 PM, nico wrote:
>> 
>>>>>> Anyone any ideas here?
>> 
>>>>>> On 5 Nov., 16:28, nico <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Sure:
>> 
>>>>>>> config.active_record.observers = [:company_cache_observer,
>>>>>>>                                     :layout_cache_observer,
>>>>>>>                                       :user_observer,
>>>>>>>                                 :userpoints_observer,
>>>>>>>                                 :ownership_observer]
>>>>>>> On 5 Nov., 16:13, Pat Allan <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Nico
>> 
>>>>>>>> Can you show us how you're loading the observers in your 
>>>>>>>> application.rb file?
>> 
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Pat
>> 
>>>>>>>> On 05/11/2011, at 4:02 PM, nico wrote:
>> 
>>>>>>>>> Strangely, thinking sphinx's model loading in define_index triggers a
>>>>>>>>> database connection to be established when the model with define_index
>>>>>>>>> is observed by an observer.
>> 
>>>>>>>>> This causes rake tasks like assets:precompile to depend on a db
>>>>>>>>> connection which should normally not be required. This dependency
>>>>>>>>> makes asset compilation on Heroku fail. If I remove the observer
>>>>>>>>> loading in application.rb, the database dependency does't exist and
>>>>>>>>> rake tasks work fine without a db configured.
>> 
>>>>>>>>> It's quite hard to debug this, help is greatly appreciated! Here is
>>>>>>>>> the stack trace for rake assets:precompile when rails is configured
>>>>>>>>> with a non existing database and using observers:
>> 
>>>>>>>>> bundle exec rake assets:precompile RAILS_ENV=staging --trace
>>>>>>>>> ** Invoke assets:precompile (first_time)
>>>>>>>>> ** Execute assets:precompile
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/rubies/ruby-1.9.2-p290/bin/ruby 
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/
>>>>>>>>> ruby-1.9.2-p290/bin/rake assets:precompile:all RAILS_ENV=staging
>>>>>>>>> RAILS_GROUPS=assets --trace
>>>>>>>>> ** Invoke assets:precompile:all (first_time)
>>>>>>>>> ** Execute assets:precompile:all
>>>>>>>>> ** Invoke assets:precompile:primary (first_time)
>>>>>>>>> ** Invoke assets:environment (first_time)
>>>>>>>>> ** Execute assets:environment
>>>>>>>>> ** Invoke environment (first_time)
>>>>>>>>> ** Execute environment
>>>>>>>>> rake aborted!
>>>>>>>>> FATAL:  database "non_existing_database" does not exist
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activerecord-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_record/connection_adapters/postgresql_adapter.rb:1032:in
>>>>>>>>> `initialize'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activerecord-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_record/connection_adapters/postgresql_adapter.rb:1032:in `new'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activerecord-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_record/connection_adapters/postgresql_adapter.rb:1032:in
>>>>>>>>> `connect'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activerecord-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_record/connection_adapters/postgresql_adapter.rb:301:in
>>>>>>>>> `initialize'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activerecord-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_record/connection_adapters/postgresql_adapter.rb:28:in `new'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activerecord-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_record/connection_adapters/postgresql_adapter.rb:28:in
>>>>>>>>> `postgresql_connection'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activerecord-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_record/connection_adapters/abstract/connection_pool.rb:304:in
>>>>>>>>> `new_connection'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activerecord-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_record/connection_adapters/abstract/connection_pool.rb:323:in
>>>>>>>>> `checkout_new_connection'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activerecord-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_record/connection_adapters/abstract/connection_pool.rb:265:in
>>>>>>>>> `block (2 levels) in checkout'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activerecord-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_record/connection_adapters/abstract/connection_pool.rb:261:in
>>>>>>>>> `loop'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activerecord-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_record/connection_adapters/abstract/connection_pool.rb:261:in
>>>>>>>>> `block in checkout'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/rubies/ruby-1.9.2-p290/lib/ruby/1.9.1/monitor.rb:
>>>>>>>>> 201:in `mon_synchronize'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activerecord-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_record/connection_adapters/abstract/connection_pool.rb:260:in
>>>>>>>>> `checkout'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activerecord-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_record/connection_adapters/abstract/connection_pool.rb:162:in
>>>>>>>>> `connection'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activerecord-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_record/connection_adapters/abstract/connection_pool.rb:409:in
>>>>>>>>> `retrieve_connection'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activerecord-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_record/connection_adapters/abstract/connection_specification.rb:
>>>>>>>>> 107:in `retrieve_connection'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activerecord-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_record/connection_adapters/abstract/connection_specification.rb:
>>>>>>>>> 89:in `connection'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activerecord-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_record/base.rb:1473:in `replace_bind_variables'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activerecord-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_record/base.rb:1460:in `sanitize_sql_array'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activerecord-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_record/base.rb:1366:in `sanitize_sql_for_conditions'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activerecord-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_record/relation/query_methods.rb:259:in `build_where'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activerecord-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_record/relation/query_methods.rb:124:in `where'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activerecord-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_record/base.rb:444:in `where'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/Rails/myapp/app/models/user.rb:194:in `<class:User>'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/Rails/myapp/app/models/user.rb:100:in `<top (required)>'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activesupport-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_support/dependencies.rb:240:in `require'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activesupport-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_support/dependencies.rb:240:in `block in require'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activesupport-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_support/dependencies.rb:225:in `load_dependency'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activesupport-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_support/dependencies.rb:240:in `require'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activesupport-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_support/dependencies.rb:348:in `require_or_load'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activesupport-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_support/dependencies.rb:489:in `load_missing_constant'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activesupport-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_support/dependencies.rb:181:in `block in const_missing'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activesupport-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_support/dependencies.rb:179:in `each'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activesupport-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_support/dependencies.rb:179:in `const_missing'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/aws-s3-0.6.2/lib/aws/s3/
>>>>>>>>> extensions.rb:206:in `const_missing_from_s3_library'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activesupport-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_support/dependencies.rb:501:in `load_missing_constant'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activesupport-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_support/dependencies.rb:181:in `block in const_missing'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activesupport-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_support/dependencies.rb:179:in `each'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activesupport-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_support/dependencies.rb:179:in `const_missing'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/aws-s3-0.6.2/lib/aws/s3/
>>>>>>>>> extensions.rb:206:in `const_missing_from_s3_library'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/Rails/myapp/app/models/company.rb:103:in `<class:Company>'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/Rails/myapp/app/models/company.rb:45:in `<top (required)>'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activesupport-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_support/dependencies.rb:240:in `require'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activesupport-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_support/dependencies.rb:240:in `block in require'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activesupport-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_support/dependencies.rb:225:in `load_dependency'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activesupport-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_support/dependencies.rb:240:in `require'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activesupport-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_support/dependencies.rb:348:in `require_or_load'
>>>>>>>>> /Users/nico/.rvm/gems/ruby-1.9.2-p290/gems/activesupport-3.1.1/lib/
>>>>>>>>> active_support/dependencies.rb:489:in `load_missing_constant'
>> 
>> ...
>> 
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