Can the inline delta work if sphinx is running on a remote machine? Is 
there even any way to trigger a remote index? What about with realtime 
indexes (I read your blog post, that looks interesting, I need to explore 
it more)?

On Monday, July 22, 2013 8:23:51 PM UTC-4, Pat Allan wrote:
>
> On 23/07/2013, at 6:18 AM, Daniel Vandersluis wrote: 
>
> > Sorry for all the threads I've been creating lately, I appreciate your 
> help and the work you've put into TS! :) 
> > 
> > Given that indexing is suddenly taking so long and so much space, 
> naturally I have begun exploring delta index issues, and have a few 
> questions. The documentation page does not seem to be updated for TS3 (is 
> there another doc page somewhere I can look at), so I hope you wouldn't 
> mind answering the following: 
>
> The theory in those docs remains correct, but the syntax has changed. I'll 
> try to get around to updating that soon. In the meantime, read on... 
>
> >         • Delta indexing seems to be triggered by saving a record, 
> inline with the process, is that correct? 
>
> With the default approach, yes this is correct. 
>
> >         • If so, is there an option to run delta indexing outside of the 
> request process? Is that what the DJ delta gem is for, and is that set up 
> for TS3? 
>
> Yup, that's what ts-delayed-delta is for (and ts-resque-delta and 
> ts-sidekiq-delta). The latest ts-delayed-delta release is what you'll need 
> for TS v3, but if you prefer Resque: 
>
>   gem 'ts-resque-delta', 
>     :git    => 'git://github.com/pat/ts-resque-delta.git', 
>     :branch => 'all-ts-versions', 
>     :ref    => 'a38e7b104a' 
>
> Or Sidekiq (yes, the repo name is correct - the original ts-sidekiq-delta 
> gem was forked from ts-resque-delta): 
>
>   gem 'ts-sidekiq-delta', 
>     :git    => 'git://github.com/pat/ts-resque-delta.git', 
>     :branch => 'sidekiq', 
>     :ref    => '5bae80758c' 
>
> You can look at the index definitions in any of the following repos to see 
> how to set it up: 
> https://github.com/sphinxtamers/rails32_mri193_v4_dj_ts3 
> https://github.com/sphinxtamers/rails32_mri193_v4_resque_ts3 
> https://github.com/sphinxtamers/rails32_mri193_v4_sidekiq_ts3 
>
> >         • What determines what triggers the delta to reindex? If 
> associated records are updated does that trigger it? What about if the 
> association contains columns that are attributes within the index? What if 
> a record is touched (ie. only updated_at changes) but no other columns are 
> changed? 
>
> Only updates that fire callbacks on the indexed model will fire off the 
> delta update. I've not played with the touch option much, but if that does 
> fire callbacks, then that'll get association updates prompting delta 
> updates too. 
>
> >         • Is there a way to trigger a delta-only index manually (ie. 
> through rake, or something like that) so that it can be used via a cronjob? 
> Is that a bad course of action to take? 
>
> Technically it's an option - though you'd probably want to write a new 
> delta adapter that doesn't actually fire off delta updates, just sets the 
> delta flag to true. Shouldn't be too difficult… though if you've got a 
> background worker (DJ/Resque/Sidekiq) already, I'd just use the appropriate 
> gem instead. 
>
> >         • Is there a way to merge the delta index into the main index 
> without having to reindex the entire thing all over again? 
>
> Sphinx does have an index merging feature. The last time I gave it a spin 
> I didn't find it worked reliably - but that was a few years ago now. 
> http://sphinxsearch.com/docs/current.html#index-merging 
>
> There is also realtime indices, but that's a bit of a shift (and I'm still 
> considering it beta): 
>
> http://freelancing-gods.com/posts/rewriting_thinking_sphinx_introducing_realtime_indices
>  
>
> -- 
> Pat 
>
>
>

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