Hey Pat,

Just had the "no enabled local indexes to search" come back again (after a 
while of not seeing it after deploy).  Any thoughts on why this is still 
happening?

Thanks,
Ngan

On Monday, August 12, 2013 9:24:01 AM UTC-7, Ngan wrote:
>
> You are awesome!  Thanks!
>
> I've deployed to production and everything works great.  I'll be keeping 
> an eye out for my original problem of errors on deployment.
>
> Can't wait for 2.1.1 :-)
>
> On Monday, August 12, 2013 5:08:54 AM UTC-7, Pat Allan wrote:
>>
>> The change was pretty simple: 
>>
>> https://github.com/pat/thinking-sphinx/commit/d5249ea0215128d5d1f916ee42882932ddb86ba7
>>  
>>
>> To use it (for the 2.x releases of Thinking Sphinx): 
>>
>>   gem 'thinking-sphinx', '~> 2.1.0', 
>>     :git    => 'git://github.com/pat/thinking-sphinx.git', 
>>     :branch => 'v2', 
>>     :ref    => '64da4dc7ff' 
>>
>> And then in an initialiser: 
>>
>>   ThinkingSphinx.persistence_enabled = false 
>>
>> Will be keen to hear if everything returns to normal for you! 
>>
>> On 12/08/2013, at 12:19 AM, Ngan Pham wrote: 
>>
>> > I see... 
>> > 
>> > So I've tested it out and it's a bit of a disaster for my situation. 
>> Some search requests are getting dropped and the server that runs sphinx is 
>> hitting memory limits. I could, in theory, solve the problem by increasing 
>> ram, how ever we have fallback servers...and it would suck to have to 
>> increase those as well.  I'll do some research on how people handle large 
>> sphinx requests...like airbnb. 
>> > 
>> > As for my 2 cents: I never felt that there was that much of an issue 
>> with the cost of opening a connection to sphinx for every request. It is 
>> very fast for us currently, and shaving 50-80% off something that already 
>> only takes milliseconds while trading for more memory usage and less 
>> scalability isn't worth for me specifically. It would awesome if you added 
>> a configuration option to disable persistent connections! I will buy you a 
>> beer! :) 
>> > 
>> >> On Aug 10, 2013, at 10:26 PM, Pat Allan <[email protected]> 
>> wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >> And the benefit is faster query times - the socket isn't being 
>> setup/cleaned up on every single search request. From the quick testing I 
>> did back when I made this change, this made a noticeable difference with 
>> Sphinx query times (no numbers at hand, but I think it was at least a 50% 
>> improvement, if not closer to 80%). 
>> >> 
>> >> -- 
>> >> Pat 
>> >> 
>> >>> On 11/08/2013, at 3:15 PM, Ngan Pham wrote: 
>> >>> 
>> >>> Hm…I was afraid of that… 
>> >>> So, we have 9 application servers with 10-20 processes each.  At high 
>> traffic times, we'd be seeing 181 processes for searchd?  Won't that blow 
>> memory up like crazy?  Is this normally something that everyone deals with? 
>> >>> 
>> >>> Just curious…what are the benefits of persisted connection pools? 
>> >>> 
>> >>> As always, thanks for the quick response Pat! 
>> >>> 
>> >>> - Ngan 
>> >>>> On Saturday, August 10, 2013 at 10:11 PM, Pat Allan wrote: 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> Hi Ngan 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> There's not really any documentation around the changes, I'm afraid… 
>> but what you're seeing is a process per thread of your app, plus a master 
>> daemon process, due to the persisted connection pool. 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> All the logic for this connection pool can be found in 
>> ThinkingSphinx::Connection: 
>> >>>> 
>> https://github.com/pat/thinking-sphinx/blob/v2/lib/thinking_sphinx/connection.rb
>>  
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> The HISTORY file has a list of all relevant changes though - here's 
>> the list of what's changed between 2.0.14 and 2.1.0 - but this and some 
>> delta refactoring are the biggest items: 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> * Removed plugin support - Thinking Sphinx is now gem-only across 
>> all branches. 
>> >>>> * ThinkingSphinx::Version and the thinking_sphinx:version task have 
>> been removed - it's a gem, it has a version number. 
>> >>>> * Updating Riddle to 1.5.6 or newer. 
>> >>>> * Requires ActiveRecord ~> 2.1 for TS 1.x releases (earlier versions 
>> were considered unsupported a few releases ago). 
>> >>>> * Allow custom Riddle controllers - useful for Flying Sphinx to take 
>> over management of Sphinx daemon/indexing actions. 
>> >>>> * Rejigged delta support to be generic, with local job classes that 
>> provide a clean, simple interface for third-party libraries. 
>> >>>> * Add hooks for anything that needs to happen before indexing (such 
>> as clearing out existing delta jobs). 
>> >>>> * Connection pool for all Sphinx client communication, with new 
>> connections built if there's any connection-related (as opposed to syntax) 
>> issues. 
>> >>>> * Multiple-field search conditions can be done with arrays of field 
>> names as keys in the :conditions hash (Alex Dowad). 
>> >>>> * Removed named capture in regular expressions to maintain MRI 1.8 
>> support (Michael Wintrant). 
>> >>>> * Support new JDBC configuration style (Kyle Stevens). 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>> -- 
>> >>>> Pat 
>> >>>> 
>> >>>>> On 11/08/2013, at 2:39 PM, Ngan wrote: 
>> >>>>> 
>> >>>>> Hi Pat, 
>> >>>>> 
>> >>>>> Thanks for the help. I tried upgrading to 2.1.0...and I'm noticing 
>> multiple instance of searched running now. Is that normal? Would you be 
>> able to point me to documentation of major changes with 2.1.0? 
>> >>>>> 
>> >>>>> Thanks, 
>> >>>>> Ngan 
>> >>>>> 
>> >>>>> On Friday, August 9, 2013 7:57:51 AM UTC-7, Pat Allan wrote: 
>> >>>>> Hi Ngan 
>> >>>>> 
>> >>>>> In 2.1.0 there's been some patches that deal with these kinds of 
>> errors - TS will now retry searches if an error crops up on the client 
>> connection (which is also persisted per thread in a connection pool, saving 
>> socket setup/teardown time). If an error crops up, a new connection is 
>> made, but if the error persists, it'll still get raised… 
>> >>>>> 
>> >>>>> Give 2.1.0 a spin, see if that helps matters. 
>> >>>>> 
>> >>>>> -- 
>> >>>>> Pat 
>> >>>>> 
>> >>>>>> On 09/08/2013, at 10:46 PM, Ngan wrote: 
>> >>>>>> 
>> >>>>>> Forgot to add the trace: 
>> >>>>>> 
>> >>>>>> gems/thinking-sphinx-2.0.14/lib/thinking_sphinx/search.rb:438:in 
>> `block in populate' 
>> >>>>>> gems/thinking-sphinx-2.0.14/lib/thinking_sphinx/search.rb:606:in 
>> `call' 
>> >>>>>> gems/thinking-sphinx-2.0.14/lib/thinking_sphinx/search.rb:606:in 
>> `retry_on_stale_index' 
>> >>>>>> gems/thinking-sphinx-2.0.14/lib/thinking_sphinx/search.rb:426:in 
>> `populate' 
>> >>>>>> gems/thinking-sphinx-2.0.14/lib/thinking_sphinx/search.rb:104:in 
>> `to_a' 
>> >>>>>> 
>> >>>>>> 
>> >>>>>> 
>> >>>>>> On Friday, August 9, 2013 5:45:55 AM UTC-7, Ngan wrote: 
>> >>>>>> Hi, 
>> >>>>>> 
>> >>>>>> We reindex our entire index pretty often (once every 3 minutes) 
>> because we have a pretty small data collection and we don't want to use 
>> delayed delta. I notice however, that every once in a while, when we deploy 
>> our application and it happens to be the same time the reindexing is about 
>> to rotate, we'll get this error "no enabled local indexes to search" every 
>> time we hit sphinx there afterwards. When this happens, we have to restart 
>> our app so that it picks up the new indexes. We are reindexing with rotate 
>> so the existing index should still be there and the rotation should be 
>> seamless. Any ideas on why this happens? And if there's anything to do 
>> about it? 
>> >>>>>> 
>> >>>>>> Thanks, 
>> >>>>>> Ngan 
>> >>>>>> 
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