My question would be: are you using the old fan from the T4x board, or one from 
R50?

Secondly, BIOS should be the same for all ATi-based pre-T43/R52 boards of this 
era.

I would strongly suggest installing TPFC, but it's your machine.

Good luck.

Cheers,

George
 

 



-----Original Message-----
From: Laurence <[email protected]>
To: tataslon <[email protected]>; thinkpad <[email protected]>
Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2011 11:37 pm
Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] Is there a fan test before opening case?  - opened now

   Re: [Thinkpad] Is there a fan test before opening case? It's open now.

No TP fan control or other fan control installed. No dust - the fan blades are 
clean, the internals look new (the sys board was just replaced with a reflowed 
R50, which was working fine up to now). The fan spins freely by hand, of course 
I'll bet the little bearing doesn't like too much of that (finger pressure). ?
I removed the palm rest, then removed and reseated the fan power connector. It 
was seated fine to begin with, and reseated exactly as it had been before.


Next I powered on with the keyboard loose, allowing me to see / hear the fan 
spin up. It's normal during resume from hibernate.?


But not for long. I set full clock speed ("high system  performance") in batt 
max (am running on bat) and the fan stayed off until 63c, which is also when I 
lifted the keyboard to take a look. The fan now believes its job is done and 
has halted - zero fan speed. Temp was climbing about a degree C every 5 seconds 
- roughly. CPU load is very low, about 15%. There - it clicked on at 62c again 
without my disturbing it, and halts dead once it reaches 53. ?Now, without any 
interruption, it's halted at 0 rpm, lets temp float to 62, pulls it down to 49, 
dowshifts and is still running at a lower rpm. Temp is floating downward now, 
?though unevenly, with constant fan rpm until 43c at which point it cuts out, 
letting the temp float back up. Now it's kicked on at 49 and still pulling down 
to 35c cpu temp.?
Obviously this is programmatic, though not keyed only to cpu temp - something 
in the BIOS perhaps. It is quieter - the fan is hardly running and could 
probably stay off with a light heat load.  ?


This is an R50 main board now, so it comes with a different bios. But I've been 
using it for a few weeks and have not seen the no-fan issue until today.?


Huh. If this is not a risk to the machine it seems preferable to the original 
fan regime - fan is off much of the time and runs at lower rpm otherwise. This 
is probably also a cooler running board, it has 1/2 the video ram of the p 
series it replaced.?


If I seem a little paranoid it's due to the multiple sys boards the machine has 
consumed over the years, the last one due to case flexing. Then again, it's 
waaay past the normal 3 yr cycle for a notebook. ?There's definitely a more 
sturdy machine in the near future.?

       From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
 To: [email protected]; [email protected] 
 Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2011 8:03 PM
 Subject: Re: [Thinkpad] Is there a fan test before opening case?
  
 Do you have ThinkPad Fan Control installed?
 
 Cheers,
 
 George
   
 
   
 
  
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: Laurence <[email protected]>
 To: thinkpad <[email protected]>
 Sent: Thu, Dec 15, 2011 6:10 pm
 Subject: [Thinkpad] Is there a fan test before opening case?
 
  
   
  
 I just noticed that there's no fan activity on my thinkpad, and idle temps are 
 
 10-15c higher than they should be. Oddly, I'm having no problem using the  
 machine, the cpu climbs rapidly but has not exceeded 60c, though this is with  
 light use.? The fan is about a year old.  
 I won't have a chance to open it up for a look for several hours ... 
 it's a T40, now with a "Dothan" 2.0mhz cpu 
 ? 
 And now the fan just kicked on, leading to a temp drop, though it's about 8c  
 higher than?expected for the conditions.??So I'll have to open it up and take 
a  
 look: what should I look for?? No clean, truly secure workspace will be  
 available so few small parts can be pulled and I can't leave it disassembled.  
 ? 
 thanks...  
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