Stewart, and all,
IMHO and FWIW, there are two valid reasons to deliver PTP (a.k.a. 1588) over 
MPLS:
1. Ability to TE the PTP paths, e.g., to use co-routed bi-directional LSPs for 
PTP transport.
   This would hopefully eliminate potential negative effects of asymmetric 
paths on clock
   recovered by PTP slaves
2. Ability to employ TC by (somehow) making the intermediate nodes aware of PTP 
packets so that
   they could update the PTP correction field. The method by which such 
awareness is achieved
   should meet several important restrictions:
   - It should be compatible with the MPLS data plane architecture (RFC 3031). 
In particular, it should not
     imply any special treatments in the ILM for "generic" labels
   - Nodes that do not have TC capabilities should be traversed without 
incurring significant additional delay
   - Backward compatibility with existing MPLS deployments should be possible
   - It should be possible to distinguish between the following situations 
along the desired LSP between a PTP
     Master and PTP slave:
     * All LSR on the path are TC-capable
     * Some LSR on the path may be not TC-capable, but all LSR on the path can 
forward PTP packets without incurring
       significant additional delay
     * There is at least one LSR on the desired path that does not support any 
TC-specific MPLS forwarding
       mechanisms.
        
Please note that both items above are fully compatible with running PTP over 
UDP/IP in labeled packets. 
And nothing in these requirements implies IP forwarding in the data plane. 
(From my point of view ability to
identify a labeled packet as an IP packet "for me" by the LSP tail-end node is 
different for IP forwarding;
e.g., in MPLS-TP this ability is required to facilitate IP-based management 
communication.)

My 2c,
     Sasha

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Stewart Bryant
Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2010 11:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TICTOC] FW: 1588 over MPLS draft

  If we ignore issues associated with existing chipsets that support 
1588/E and 1588/UDP/IP, my preferred approach would be 1588/MPLS. Indeed 
I might be tempted to significantly reduce the protocol options in this 
environment. i.e. create a new 1588 protocol mapping which runs over a 
PTP FEC.

We need to think whether we would need to translate into one of the more 
common client mapping via boundary clock, or whether we could do direct 
protocol mapping, but I am concerned at the number of layers that we 
need if we retain the Ethernet or the IP headers.

Stewart


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