Hi Stefano,

Thanks for our comments and Sorry for delay. I will go through your comments 
this week and if needed will update the draft accordingly. Will keep you posted.

Thanks
Shahram

-----Original Message-----
From: Stefano Ruffini [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Monday, February 13, 2012 7:53 AM
To: Shahram Davari; [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: RE: [TICTOC] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-tictoc-1588overmpls-02.txt

Dear Manav, Sharham, 1588 over mpls draft Authors 

 I have collected some notes on version 02 of the 1588 over MPLS draft that may 
be considered for future versions of the document. 

1) In general the draft needs some clean-up. In particular as also highlighted 
in previous discussions (e.g. in Taipei) some of the aspects to be addressed 
are outside the scope of TICTOC, and a review with the MPLS WG will certainly 
be required. For instance the description of the protocol - particularly with 
respect to how layering is modeled in the behavior of an LSR. 
Section 16 (e.g. the description of LER behavior in section 16.1) should be 
among the main parts to be checked by the MPLS WG. 
The CCAMP WG should also be involved in the review . 

2) There is a serious mismatch between what is currently in the introduction 
and what the rest of the draft includes. Most notably, the introduction seems 
to imply that only 1588 PTP messages are transported while it is clear from the 
abstract and in subsequent sections (10 and 16, particularly) that other 
message types may also be transported on the same LSP. 
In addition more information should be added with respect to the required 
routing and signaling extensions. In particular the introduction should list at 
least well-known and commonly used routing and signaling protocols, including 
those for which the draft currently defines extensions and why others are 
considered out of scope. 

3) Section 3 and 4 could be expanded to better explain the various 1588 network 
scenarios and applicability of the draft to these scenarios .
In fact , although as explained in section 4, the main scenario of interest for 
this draft is with LSRs implementing (E2E?) TC, and BC implemented in the LERs, 
it seems that other scenarios could be of interest or at least the 
applicability of the draft could be better clarified (e.g. indicating the 
benefits, if any, in using the features described in the draft).
 For instance some of the scenarios that should be considered are: 
- BC in the LERs, and 1588 unaware LSRs
- BC in the LERs, and LSRs with P2P TC 
- Boundary clocks in every node, which is currently the main scenario being 
studied in ITU-T. 

Finally, assuming the TC layer violation is addressed by terminating the PTP at 
every hop (i.e. also in the LSR-TC), how would this case be addressed by the 
draft ?

4) The Introduction reads: 
"This document provides two methods for transporting PTP messages over MPLS. 
One is principally focused on an IP/MPLS environment and the second is focused 
on the MPLS-TP environment."
Section 6.1. explains that the mapping described in this section is suitable 
for IP/MPLS networks.
A similar consideration should be added in 6.2 as relevant for MPLS-TP. For 
instance the MPLS-TP related assumptions should be made clear in this section. 
Perhaps title of these sections might be revised. 

5) Section 5 
The discussion on using P2P or P2MP LSP ("The PTP LSP between Master Clocks and 
Slave Clocks MAY be P2MP or P2P LSP while the PTP LSP between
   each Slave Clock and Master Clock SHOULD be P2P LSP.") could be described 
more in detail (e.g. adding the rationales) or perhaps removed. It may also be 
related to the specific profile used.  

6) Section 14.1 and 14.2: 
only 1 bit is currently defined (C) for the 1588aware link capability 
information
If relevant (see also comment 3), the authors could consider to distinguish 
already at this stage several cases (E2E TC, P2P TC, BC, etc.), allocating more 
bits, rather than leaving everything for future use.

7) Section 16.3
The definition of "non-1588-aware LSR" may need to be revised: the current 
definition seems to mix the capability of handling PTP packets with the 
capability of handling the RSVP-TE extensions. I think it would be better to 
use different terms for these cases.

Best Regards
Stefano

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