Tal,
I wasn't able to get meeting audio, so don't know whether this was discussed.

My main concern with the draft concerns transparent clocks, as in section 4.1.4. A PTP transparent clock is really just a Layer 2 or IP forwarder with a timestamping mechanism based on a syntonized timebase. Every forwarder on the master-slave path with significant queueing and other variable delays must have the transparent clock mechanism, else there will be loss of accuracy. Any forwarder can mount a MITM DOS attack on a secured clock correction field by corrupting it. To say nothing of greatly complicating the forwarding process and perhaps even adding inaccuracy.

Which leads me to suggest that perhaps rather than trying to authenticate the TC and protect the clock correction field as security mechanisms in the PTP or its encapsulation might cause more problems and risks than the threats they eliminates. Maybe it would be better to think about this as a secure routing or signaling problem, and use signaling or routing to constrain the set of feasible paths to those which have a trusted, authenticated TC on each hop. This becomes a problem for RSVP or LDP for the MPLS encapsulation, and OSPF and ISIS for IP tunneling. I suspect (have not dug into it, though) that most of the mechanisms we'd need already exist.

Dan

On 8/2/2012 12:10 PM, [email protected] wrote:


Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2012 19:10:39 +0300
From: Tal Mizrahi <[email protected]>
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: [TICTOC] TICTOC Security Requirements
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Hi,

http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tictoc-security-requirements-02

Following this week's TICTOC meeting:

1.       We plan to release draft 03 within a month, and proceed to WG last 
call.

2.       Therefore, I will appreciate if people can send any comments they may 
have by Aug 22.

3.       There was some discussion about the "proventication" requirement. I 
would like to suggest to change the terminology in the document, since I understand this 
term is not very popular.
However, I believe that the requirement for a chain of trust is still an 
important and valid requirement. Please comment if you think otherwise.

Thanks,
Tal.

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