Shahram:

I have a few comments about this draft:

A)  In clause 3, you say "...the payload can't be deterministically identified 
by LSRs because the payload type is a context of the PW label and the PW label, 
and the PW label and its context are only known to the Edge routers (PEs/LERs); 
LSRs don't know what is a PW's payload (Ethernet, ATM, FR, CES, etc)."

However, a new contradictory text in clause 7 says:  "It is the job of the 
LER/LSR to parse the timing message and find out the type of the Timing message 
and decide whether and how to Time-stamp it (e.g. , BC) or modify existing 
timestamp in it (e.g., TC)."  

I think the new text in clause 7 needs to be changed.  I don't think we want 
LERs and LSRs to look inside timing packets to decide how to timestamp it.  I 
think the timing LSPs should be unique and should contain all the information 
that the LER/LSR needs for its timestamping function.  


B). Following along the lines of my comment above regarding deep packet 
inspection, how is 2-step functionality handled in a transparent clock in the 
MPLS network?  To update a follow_up packet, an LSR TC would need to look 
inside the packet to associate the sequenceID of the Follow_up message with 
that of the Sync message.  Perhaps you should allow only one-step timestamping 
in all MPLS nodes.  Follow_up packets that were generated outside the MPLS 
network can still pass through, but they will not be modified.  This would 
simplify the timestamping function and negate the need for any deep-packet 
inspection.


C).  Clause 6.4 of the newly released draft of ITU-T G.8275.1, Precision time 
protocol telecom profile for phase/time synchronization, states that "The 
Ethernet mapping, as per IEEE 1588-2008 Annex F, is agreed as the default 
mapping for the profile."  Sooner or later, you will need to add the 
PTP-over-Ethernet-over-MPLS encapsulation to section 6 of your standard to 
support this profile.


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Subject: [TICTOC] I-D Action: draft-ietf-tictoc-1588overmpls-03.txt


A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories.
 This draft is a work item of the Timing over IP Connection and Transfer of 
Clock Working Group of the IETF.

        Title           : Transporting Timing messages over MPLS Networks
        Author(s)       : Shahram Davari
                          Amit Oren
                          Manav Bhatia
                          Peter Roberts
                          Laurent Montini
        Filename        : draft-ietf-tictoc-1588overmpls-03.txt
        Pages           : 36
        Date            : 2012-10-22

Abstract:
   This document defines the method for transporting Timing messages
   such as PTP and NTP over an MPLS network.  The method allows for the
   easy identification of these PDUs at the port level to allow for port
   level processing of these PDUs in both LERs and LSRs.

   The basic idea is to transport Timing messages inside dedicated MPLS
   LSPs.  These LSPs only carry timing messages and possibly Control and
   Management packets, but they do not carry customer traffic.

   Two methods for transporting Timing messages over MPLS are defined.
   The first method is to transport Timing messages directly over the
   dedicated MPLS LSP via UDP/IP encapsulation, which is suitable for
   MPLS networks.  The second method is to transport Timing messages
   inside a PW via Ethernet encapsulation, which is suitable for both
   MPLS and MPLS-TP networks.


The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tictoc-1588overmpls

There's also a htmlized version available at:
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-tictoc-1588overmpls-03

A diff from the previous version is available at:
http://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-tictoc-1588overmpls-03


Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP at:
ftp://ftp.ietf.org/internet-drafts/


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