Tony, I'll start a new thread, since it's not about transclusion.
-Springer On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 12:15:40 AM UTC-5, TonyM wrote: > > Springer, > > Please describe "Clint Checkett's Redirect macro" because I have no idea > what it does, so I can't give an indicator if there is a method to replace > it. I am sure I know more than I used to with TW5. > > Regards > Tony > > On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 4:00:44 PM UTC+11, springer wrote: >> >> Wow, Tony, thanks so much! I've just poked around the learning edition a >> bit, and have enjoyed it so far. I hope your site will help get me ahead of >> the curve, though the big dive will probably wait for summer. For now I >> have to find the right balance between indulging my geek-impulse (to >> understand TW5 well) and responsibly learning just enough (for now) so that >> I can back to *using* (and developing bottom-line content for) the site >> that I'll be teaching out of in just a couple weeks. After years of >> teaching my big course out of TW Classic for about forever (since 2005 >> actually), it's hard to imagine any other way of organizing information for >> students. >> >> I'm still grieving the loss of something like Clint Checkett's Redirect >> macro, for reasons much like those mentioned by tobaisch a couple years ago >> (in a post to which you responded), and I'm perplexed that nothing like it >> seems possible with TW5. But in all other ways, TW5 is looking like such a >> runaway boost to everything I already loved about TW Classic! >> >> Best, >> >> -Springer >> >> On Saturday, December 28, 2019 at 10:54:55 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote: >>> >>> Springer, >>> >>> I may have mentioned I went through the same as you, making the big jump >>> from TWC to TW5 in part you will need to unlearn things. Much more can be >>> done in native TW5 than in TWC which demanded plugins a lot more. I can >>> recommend downloading a full copy of tiddlywiki.com and making it your >>> own to read and experiment. Perhaps tag the doco you understand and need to >>> review. I built an earlier version which contains customisations and >>> plugins you may want to study https://tiddlywiki.psat.com.au/learn/ >>> >>> Fee free to ask how here of course. >>> >>> Tony >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 1:34:45 PM UTC+11, springer wrote: >>>> >>>> Tony, thanks! I did just post about it earlier this evening, with a link >>>> to my site <http://ethicsatwes.tiddlyspot.com/#units>. >>>> >>>> I'll look into currentTab... It sounds like I should rewrite my >>>> templates, but I'm still just barely treading water with my upgrade >>>> process. I'm still very far from getting up to speed with TW5 widgets and >>>> macros, and have been cobbling together solutions found on others' pages, >>>> with minor patches... >>>> >>>> On Saturday, December 28, 2019 at 8:19:37 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Springer, >>>>> >>>>> Do detail your issue re tabs, because I think we may already have a >>>>> solution for tabs, it uses a template to transclude tabs and there is a >>>>> variable called currentTab available inside each tab. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> Tony >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 11:12:32 AM UTC+11, springer wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Tony, I have a feeling your challenge may be related to my question >>>>>> about finding a way for transclusions to "behave" as I would hope them >>>>>> to >>>>>> when the tiddlers they're in get rendered as tabs, etc. Yes? I'll watch >>>>>> this post... Cheers. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, December 23, 2019 at 7:01:11 PM UTC-5, TonyM wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Folks, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To cut a long story short I wanted to challenge the group to see if >>>>>>> there is a way to extract a tiddler title from an intermediate >>>>>>> transclude. >>>>>>> attached and Illustrated below; >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Why?* >>>>>>> Because in a number of new methods I am developing this is a gap in >>>>>>> what I can do to simplify the sophisticated (but simple) use of >>>>>>> transclusions. Such a solution could make even smarter transclude >>>>>>> methods >>>>>>> available and reduce the code needed to achieve them, or the need for >>>>>>> changes in the core to expand designer options when building wikis. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here are three tiddlers you can create on Tiddlywiki.com (use JSON >>>>>>> file if you want) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Display tiddler >>>>>>> <h2>Display Tiddler</h2> >>>>>>> Current Tiddler=<<currentTiddler>><br> >>>>>>> Display Tiddler=<<storyTiddler>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ;Simple Transclude (1) >>>>>>> {{||intermediate}} >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ;Transclude with tiddlername (2) >>>>>>> {{tiddlername||intermediate}} >>>>>>> >>>>>>> intermediate tiddler >>>>>>> \define intermediate() intermediate >>>>>>> <h2>Intermediate Tiddler</h2> >>>>>>> Intermediate Tiddler=<<intermediate>><br> >>>>>>> Current Tiddler=<<currentTiddler>><br> >>>>>>> Display Tiddler=<<storyTiddler>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> {{||final}} >>>>>>> >>>>>>> final tiddler >>>>>>> <h2>final tiddler</h2> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <h3>How can I find the tiddler name of the intermediate tiddler >>>>>>> here?</h3> >>>>>>> Intermediate Tiddler=<<intermediate>><br> >>>>>>> Current Tiddler=<<currentTiddler>><br> >>>>>>> Display Tiddler=<<storyTiddler>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> One solution is to edit the intermediate tiddler as in the example >>>>>>> and define a variable based on a literal >>>>>>> \define intermediate() intermediate >>>>>>> as included in the above. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *However* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - I am looking for a way to avoid editing the intermediate >>>>>>> tiddler to provide its name as a literal >>>>>>> - I would accept a programmatic way to store the intermediate >>>>>>> name in intermediate but ideally I would like to avoid editing >>>>>>> "intermediate" at all >>>>>>> - Is there a way to derive this intermediate tiddler title by >>>>>>> other means in final? >>>>>>> - What if there was a second intermediate tiddler? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *Hacking* >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Perhaps there is a way to get/set the last tiddler "doing the >>>>>>> transclude" in "final" by altering the transclude mechanism? >>>>>>> - What if we could somehow determine the full branch used to get >>>>>>> to any level deep >>>>>>> - eg (in final) display intermediate final >>>>>>> or (in final) display $:/core/ui/Buttons/edit final >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks in advance >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> Tony >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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