Hi, I'm still confused why, for instance, pupil 1 should be considered part of a group. You could say that it forms a group for the two pupils that it has as tags, except that it is not tagged as a group. So it just happens to have a relationship to the students (a tag parent of), but isn't a group.
Yes, there probably needs to be a button or something that will allow the list to refresh. What it does is build a list of group- participants the first time the function is called. Then it uses that list the rest of the time as the FET loop calls it over and over. If it didn't cache the partcipants, the list would build very slowly. Not so bad with 8 students, but its going to hurt if hundreds. Mark On Jan 28, 7:22 pm, twgrp <matiasg...@gmail.com> wrote: > Just discovered that saving an reloading the whole page *does* correct > things. Somehow neither the "refresh" script in the tiddler updates > things fully nor the (even more desirable) automatic re-rendering that > does occur automatically when e.g 7 is tagged with the groupname 2. > Do you think it has anything to do with the script? > > On Jan 29, 4:14 am, twgrp <matiasg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Hm, I must have explained poorly. Sorry. The only pupils that should > > be under the heading "Not members" should be; > > 7,8,9 > > > The others, i.e 1,5,6 do appear in groups and should not be listed, > > i.e they are tagged with 2,3 or 4 (and 2,3,4 are all tagged with > > Group). > > > I realized your script should be in the first/outer fET and also that > > it should be before the fET-write-command, so I did a little updating > > - and now it almost works!http://groupies.tiddlyspot.com/ > > Only 7,8,9 are listed! > > > ...at least until one of those, i.e 7,8,9, is tagged with a groupname. > > Take 7 for instance. If it is tagged with a groupname, it does then > > correctly appear under that group, and it is tagged correctly, but it > > erroneously stays listed in the 'Not members' list. And refreshing > > does not help. > > (Tagging 7 with Group though, causes appropriate behavior and it > > vanishes from the "Not members" list) > > Strange...??? > > > Again, thank you so much! I (clearly) could not make this succeed > > without your input! > > > On Jan 29, 2:57 am, "Mark S." <throa...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > The problem with the slider seems to be in the setup of the checkbox > > > plugin. One problem at a time ;-) > > > > When I look at it, the pupils listed are: > > > > 1,5,6,7,8,9. > > > > As far as I can tell, none of these participate in a group per your > > > description. None of them are tagged as "Group", and none of them are > > > "children" of pupils that are marked as "Group". Which one(s) > > > shouldn't be on the list? > > > > Good luck! > > > Mark > > > > On Jan 28, 3:58 pm, twgrp <matiasg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Thank you Mark, that is very kind of you! > > > > Unfortunately it doesn't seem to work, or maybe I misunderstand > > > > something? In the listing of the ungrouped members, grouped members > > > > still appear and when clicking the slider next to it, it says > > > > "<<forEachTiddler ...>>: ReferenceError: participatesInGroup is not > > > > defined". I have studied the code but only partially understand it. I > > > > would really appreciate it if you, or anyone, could have a look. It > > > > seems promising :-) > > > > > Your assumptions is correct in that a pupil can be tagged with another > > > > pupil without it beign a group. It takes a Group tag to make it a > > > > group. (The reason is that there will be different types of groups > > > > later on so a group-type specified tag is necessary.) > > > > > I played with MatchTagsPlugin. In a way I think the following > > > > statement sums up the desired tiddlers; > > > > [tag[Pupil && ! [tag[ Pupil && Group]]]] > > > > but it seems I can't nest [tag] like this (correct?) and also it > > > > assumes that the whole inner [tag] is evaluated so that the first and > > > > second Pupil are not "the same". If this doesn't make sense at all, > > > > then I've misunderstood how the command works (very likely), but I > > > > thought I'd mention it because it seems compact/elegant. > > > > > Thank you!!! > > > > > On 28 Jan, 18:53, "Mark S." <throa...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > > I hope it was ok -- I uploaded a change on your checking script. It > > > > > adds a function "participatesInGroup(pupil)". It builds its > > > > > participant list from the top down (starting with "Group"). So Pupil1 > > > > > is not a member of a group, even though there are pupils that are > > > > > tagged with it ... per your definition (its not a Group, and it has no > > > > > parents that are grouped). > > > > > > The participant list is only 2 levels deep. If more levels are needed, > > > > > they can be added or reentrant code created. > > > > > > If you don't like the code -- it should be easy to delete out the > > > > > 'script' on the final FET block. > > > > > > HTH > > > > > Mark > > > > > > On Jan 28, 7:22 am, twgrp <matiasg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Well, pupils come and go arbitrarily så it is not possible to hard > > > > > > code it like that, if I understand you right. Plus that there will > > > > > > be > > > > > > many (1000's ?) of pupils... > > > > > > :-) > > > > > > > On Jan 28, 4:08 pm, cmari <cema...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > So, just to be sure I understand, the clunky way of doing this > > > > > > > would > > > > > > > be to replace > > > > > > > the word GroupTiddlerNames in the tiddler [[CheckListwGroups]] > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > !tiddler.tags.containsAny(["Pupil1", "Pupil2", "Pupil3", > > > > > > > "Pupil4","Pupil5","Pupil6","Pupil7","Pupil8","Pupil9"]) > > > > > > > but you're looking for a simpler way to exclude those tiddlers > > > > > > > without > > > > > > > itemizing them? > > > > > > > > cmari > > > > > > > > On Jan 28, 5:03 am, twgrp <matiasg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thank you for taking this on cmari! > > > > > > > > > I have put up a testcase that is as simplified and clear as I > > > > > > > > can make > > > > > > > > it;http://groupies.tiddlyspot.com/ > > > > > > > > (username=password=groupies) > > > > > > > > (link mentioned previously in another thread, but now modified). > > > > > > > > > The crucial bit is emphasized in red. > > > > > > > > > Ref to the "pupil analogy" above, I have change from "shools" to > > > > > > > > "groups" so to emphasize that pupils can be part of many > > > > > > > > groups. Also > > > > > > > > in the testcase pupils "become" groups by tagging them with > > > > > > > > Group. > > > > > > > > Thus: > > > > > > > > > "list all pupils that are not members of any groups" = > > > > > > > > fET-list all tiddlers tagged Pupil that are not tagged with any > > > > > > > > "names > > > > > > > > of tiddlers tagged Group" > > > > > > > > > Surprisingly tricky, eh? ;-) > > > > > > > > > Thank you! > > > > > > > > > On Jan 28, 3:53 am, cmari <cema...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I first thought that what you wanted was straight-forward: > > > > > > > > > <<forEachTiddler where > > > > > > > > > 'tiddler.tags.containsAny(["B1","B2","B3"]) && > > > > > > > > > tiddler.tags.contains("C") ' >> > > > > > > > > > But your question sounds more complicated. Can you give some > > > > > > > > > more > > > > > > > > > details about what you're trying to do? > > > > > > > > > > More generally, you can see examples of things that can be > > > > > > > > > done with > > > > > > > > > the "where clause" in fET > > > > > > > > > here:http://tiddlywiki.abego-software.de/#WhereClauseExamples > > > > > > > > > cmari > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 27, 4:13 pm, twgrp <matiasg...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I can't figure this out; > > > > > > > > > > > I want to filter out; > > > > > > > > > > "all tiddlers tagged with any of the tiddlernames B1,B2... > > > > > > > > > > that are > > > > > > > > > > tagged with C" > > > > > > > > > > - or a concrete example - > > > > > > > > > > "all pupils tagged with any of the shools (B1...) that are > > > > > > > > > > located in > > > > > > > > > > smallville (C). > > > > > > > > > > > Those tiddlers are to go in as parameter input to a > > > > > > > > > > forEachTiddler. > > > > > > > > > > I.e; > > > > > > > > > > > <<forEachTiddler where 'tiddler.tags.containsAny("HERE")' > > > > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > > My pathetic attempts at putting a "fET as argument to a > > > > > > > > > > fET" did not > > > > > > > > > > work and I've done some sad attempts with MatchTagsPlugin > > > > > > > > > > with no > > > > > > > > > > result (I don't understand how to use it). > > > > > > > > > > > Maybe it's possible to store the filtered string... if it, > > > > > > > > > > in deed, is > > > > > > > > > > a string... and somehow the appropriate format for fET... > > > > > > > > > > but how do I > > > > > > > > > > store it and then call for it at the right place...? > > > > > > > > > > > I'd really appreciate any help. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. 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