I don't see anything wrong here, because there seems to be no error 
otherwise (without the possibility to see what happens with your file if it 
is not publishable).

Perhaps there is corruption in other areas that interferes with and 
prevents the proper functioning of TW.

If you want to investigate manually, simply look at tiddler names of the 
plugin (content tab from source 
https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html#%24%3A%2Fplugins%2Ftelmiger%2FEditButtons)
(also, it's shadow tiddler when plugin is on, not system as you search it, 
have a look if there here).

Le mercredi 6 janvier 2021 à 14:16:32 UTC+1, Sapphireslinger a écrit :

> yes that's how I deleted it
> yes I'm working on copies of last one before I upgraded to 5.1.23 :)
>
> On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 8:42:24 PM UTC+8 sil...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> That's very strange.
>> (hope you work on copy).
>>
>> How did you delete it ?
>>
>> [image: Capture d’écran 2021-01-06 à 13.41.23.png]
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Le mercredi 6 janvier 2021 à 12:46:21 UTC+1, Sapphireslinger a écrit :
>>
>>> It is impossible to delete Telmiger EditButtons plugin!
>>>
>>> In not yet upgraded wiki:
>>>
>>> I deleted the telmiger editbuttons plugin. 
>>> telmiger editbuttons continued working!
>>> Just to make sure I saved, closed and reloaded my wiki.
>>> All telmiger editbuttons still present and functioning!
>>>
>>> Then I typed "telmiger" in system search box:
>>> All these tiddlers still present!
>>>
>>>
>>> $:/config/EditToolbarButtons/Visibility/$:/plugins/telmiger/EditButtons/Buttons/cancel-and-close
>>>  
>>>
>>> $:/config/EditToolbarButtons/Visibility/$:/plugins/telmiger/EditButtons/Buttons/save-and-close
>>>  
>>>
>>> $:/config/EditToolbarButtons/Visibility/$:/plugins/telmiger/EditButtons/Buttons/save-open
>>>  
>>> $:/config/Plugins/Disabled/$:/plugins/telmiger/EditButtons/styles.css 
>>> $:/plugins/telmiger/EditButtons/images/done-close-button 
>>> $:/plugins/telmiger/EditButtons/images/done-close-button-original 
>>> $:/plugins/telmiger/EditButtons/settings/style 
>>>
>>> $:/state/plugin-info-816169662-$:/plugins/telmiger/EditButtons---396790572 
>>>
>>> I delete each one of those tiddlers manually.
>>> Telmiger editbuttons continued working!
>>> Just to make sure I saved, closed and reloaded my wiki.
>>> The tiddlers deleted are still deleted.
>>> BUT all telmiger editbuttons present and working even though plugin and 
>>> all those tiddlers deleted!
>>> On Wednesday, January 6, 2021 at 3:30:34 AM UTC+8 sil...@gmail.com 
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK, whaou that's a lot of plugin ^-^'
>>>>
>>>> So if I'm guessing right, after re-read your first post, it's about 
>>>> *EditButtons* plugin from Thomas Elmiger (
>>>> https://tid.li/tw5/plugins.html)
>>>> Just try in a fresh empty 5.1.23 and it works for me.
>>>> Maybe try to reinstall it.
>>>>
>>>> (yes when you delete a plugin on single file, delete for example 
>>>> $:/plugins/telmiger/EditButtons 
>>>> and reload your TW file to finish the process).
>>>>
>>>> Hope it help.
>>>> Sylvain
>>>>
>>>> NB : Thomas if you read this, there is a side effect/glitch on readme 
>>>> tiddler on too big SVG image with my test on clean install.
>>>> Le mardi 5 janvier 2021 à 14:25:56 UTC+1, Sapphireslinger a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> I do not have the Stroll edition. However I have the TWcrosslinks 
>>>>> plugin 0.1.19 (if I'm reading the tiny print right).
>>>>>
>>>>> I tried deleting $:/config/ui/EditTemplate per your link above and 
>>>>> then upgraded, but it still broke the cancel button. I also tried 
>>>>> deleting 
>>>>> $:/config/ui/EditTemplate on an already upgraded version but the cancel 
>>>>> button stayed button.
>>>>>
>>>>> I find I don't use the* TWcrosslinks plugin *much. I will try 
>>>>> deleting it. But* is deleting it a simple matter of deleting *
>>>>> *$:/ak/plugins/TWCrossLinks?* Will that get rid of all the tiddlers 
>>>>> included in the plugin? Or must I delete each of the included tiddlers 
>>>>> before deleting the plugin tiddler?
>>>>>
>>>>> Here is the list of all my other plugins:
>>>>>
>>>>> A bookmark library for TiddlyWiki 
>>>>> A contacts database for TiddlyWiki 
>>>>> A filter to split input titles and slice-up the results 
>>>>> A trashbin mechanism for Tiddlywiki 
>>>>> Checklist Plugin 
>>>>> datepicker plugin for TiddlyWiki5, based on Pikaday version 1.6.1 
>>>>> Disclosure HTML element 
>>>>> Discover all your intra tiddlers links 
>>>>> double click to edit tiddlers 
>>>>> Editor and outliner for TiddlyWiki 
>>>>> Editor AutoList - editor extension to automatically continue lists 
>>>>> EditorCounter & Autosaver 
>>>>> Evernote migration tools 
>>>>> Horizontal Story River 
>>>>> include web content 
>>>>> Interstitial Journaling Plugin 
>>>>> moment.js plugin for TiddlyWiki5 
>>>>> Open All Button 
>>>>> Relink - flexibility when relinking renamed tiddlers 
>>>>> Save & close / Cancel & close / Save & keep open 
>>>>> Shiraz 
>>>>> Simple project management for TiddlyWiki 
>>>>> Slider: Create trails, walk through, guided help, sequence, doubly 
>>>>> linked contents 
>>>>> Spreadsheet-like formulas in TiddlyWiki. 
>>>>> Tiddler Commander 
>>>>> TiddlyTables 
>>>>> TiddlyWiki5 core 
>>>>> Todolist for quick and short todo and tasks 
>>>>>
>>>>> These are disabled:
>>>>> Evernote migration tools
>>>>> Horizontal Story River
>>>>> Relink - flexibility when relinking renamed tiddlers (didn't realize 
>>>>> this one was disabled, will re-enable)
>>>>> Spreadsheet-like formulas in TiddlyWiki.
>>>>> Todolist for quick and short todo and tasks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tuesday, January 5, 2021 at 7:29:16 PM UTC+8 sil...@gmail.com 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Don't you have the Stroll edition? Because it looks like this thread 
>>>>>> : https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/Btso8q3Okzo/m/bKA4C9Q9BgAJ
>>>>>> and David's update :
>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/YeiImlym0j8/m/O9yZ2JRtBwAJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sylvain
>>>>>> Le mardi 5 janvier 2021 à 11:07:54 UTC+1, Sapphireslinger a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It happened during the upgrade because I found the last backup of my 
>>>>>>> tiddlywiki before the upgrade, verified that it did not have those two 
>>>>>>> problems, then I re-uploaded and the two problems appeared again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, January 5, 2021 at 10:39:51 AM UTC+8 Sapphireslinger 
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * After upgrading my cancel-and-close button no longer works. (the 
>>>>>>>> circle with the x)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (I then tried deleting telmiger's editbuttons plugin thinking there 
>>>>>>>> might be an incompatibility but strangely even after I deleted the 
>>>>>>>> plugin, 
>>>>>>>> and closed and re-loaded the tiddlywiki, all buttons are still showing 
>>>>>>>> up, 
>>>>>>>> even though plug-in is now missing from plug-in list. Also the 
>>>>>>>> cancel/close 
>>>>>>>> button still doesn't work.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I also tried re-installing telmiger's plugin, but cancel/close 
>>>>>>>> button still doesn't work.)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> * Also after upgrading, in edit mode the field name text box now 
>>>>>>>> stretches the length of the tiddler, pushing the down arrow and field 
>>>>>>>> name 
>>>>>>>> box down to the next line.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>

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