Hey @Anjar -that's cool! Could be the makings of a viable solution. Question: Create-date is both immutable, even if the tiddler name is modified, and guaranteed unique -is that right?
If so, then this would satisfy the conditions of a UID -and then i can still change the tiddler's Title (which can and should occur for all sorts of good reasons that i can explain if need be). Would be nice to make generation of such URL a button-push kinda thing, instead of having to "hack" it (simple as the syntax is, it's a bit of friction i'd like to avoid if possible). Thanks, Anders! /walt On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 2:03:07 PM UTC+1 Anjar wrote: > Hi, > > I agree with you and see the problem. One simple solution is just sharing > links like https://tiddlywiki.com/#:[created[20140904085700000]] > > Best, > Anders > onsdag 5. mai 2021 kl. 14:15:43 UTC+2 skrev ludwa6: > >> OK @Tones & @TT: if neither of you guys sees this as problematic, then >> i'd better explain myself better. Here's a meta-example i've just >> documented: >> >> 1. Create a tiddler on this topic, and give it a permalink: >> https://meta.tiddlyhost.com/#AvoidingLinkRot. Share link with >> friends, to engage their support in taming this dragon! >> 2. Recall that "Link Rot" is a well-known problem, which Wikipedia >> might know about- and indeed: see >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link_rot >> 3. Realise that- in keeping w/ principle of AtomicGranularity- i >> should probably limit this tiddler to describing the problem (including >> link to that Wikipedia article and maybe just my review of that material) >> and rename it after that article: "ProblemOfLinkRot" >> 4. Work away on that renamed tiddler, adding my detailed analysis of >> the article, and the problem. >> 5. Puzzled after a time as to why nobody is commenting on my work, >> check the link -and find out that it's broken. (yeesh! and nobody told >> me? >> did they even click the link i shared?) >> >> i've run through this loop enough times, it's already getting old. Could >> it be that it's just me, i wonder? >> >> /walt >> On Wednesday, May 5, 2021 at 10:51:28 AM UTC+1 TiddlyTweeter wrote: >> >>> Ciao walt, >>> >>> Right. Tiddler PERMALINK-ability posted as URLs elsewhere is intimately >>> tied to NOT changing Titles. >>> >>> Personally I can't get in a hot sweat over that. That is no different >>> than any other web page. >>> SURE you could get into REDIRECTS on a server or up the complexity >>> within TW of self-REDIRECTS I guess? >>> >>> I don't really see the point though :-). >>> >>> Best wishes >>> TT >>> >>> On Wednesday, 5 May 2021 at 10:34:24 UTC+2 ludwa6 wrote: >>> >>>> The more i use TW, the more concerned i become about maintaining data >>>> integrity -and so this issue has boiled to the top of my queue: how can i >>>> continue to enjoy the benefits of TW (+ Relink plugin) flexibility, >>>> without >>>> compromising the integrity of Permalinks? >>>> >>>> This feels like a deep problem that goes right to core TW architecture- >>>> since, as PMario explained in last thread >>>> <https://groups.google.com/g/tiddlywiki/c/kTrAbuneCkA/m/lAsdkriFAgAJ>, >>>> tiddler immutability is tied to its Title (so how can Relink even work, i >>>> wonder?)- but if i've learned anything here, it is to not underestimate >>>> the >>>> creative problem-solving ability of this group :-)... SO: >>>> >>>> From a non-technical perspective, what i'd like to do is have some >>>> immutable UID (based on date-time, or maybe date+ a serial number, like >>>> yyyy-mm-dd-serialnum) that is used for Permalinks (i.e. shared w/ the >>>> outside web that is not Relink-aware), but still have Title field and >>>> Relink plugin (and everything else for that matter) work just as it does >>>> now, from the TW editor's perspective. >>>> >>>> Is this a reasonable feature design goal, i wonder? If so, i'd like to >>>> do what i can to help make it happen! >>>> >>>> /walt >>>> >>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/7c5a69eb-4616-4372-8a9d-da6ba7017280n%40googlegroups.com.
