Thanks Álvaro, I've played in there before, but didn't understand enough to 
get what I need. Got what I needed!

To close the loop:
A/C/D: tc-tiddler-frame (padding)
B: already had
E: tc-story-river (padding-right)
Bonus: tc-tiddler-frame (margin-bottom)

On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 10:27:34 AM UTC-4 Álvaro wrote:

> In your browser you have a excellent tool for it. Here 
> <https://developer.chrome.com/docs/devtools/css/> they explains how use 
> it in chrome, it is similar in other browsers.
>
> In the second panel with tab "Styles" (active) you can see the list of 
> rules applied to the element. Those above overwrite the previous/below 
> ones. The first is "element.style" and it refers to inline styles (when 
> you give styles directly inside the html, without CSS). But you only need 
> see where the padding/margin are applied to find the class (or selector). 
> El miércoles, 26 de mayo de 2021 a las 12:33:40 UTC+2, Stobot escribió:
>
>> Thanks Arunn, I can see some similarities in desired output there, so 
>> thanks for passing along that link. At first glance though it looks like 
>> I'm already in a similar place - with extra (for my purposes anyways) 
>> spacing on the left and right
>>
>> My hope is that someone who's done this kind of thing before would say 
>> something like - "For A, add a class for 'tc-tiddler-top-padding" and 
>> change it to 0px to get rid of it" or something like that. 
>>
>> On Wednesday, May 26, 2021 at 2:14:37 AM UTC-4 arunn...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> https://ibnishak.github.io/Timimi/
>>>
>>>  Will this be of any help?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 26, 2021 at 5:48 AM Stobot <sto...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> One of my side projects is to make a "version/edition" for my other 
>>>> "corporate" folk who are used to things looking like programs they're used 
>>>> to - primarily Microsoft (Teams / PowerBI / Office Online). There is a 
>>>> very 
>>>> common pattern with a top bar, left bar, and then the documentation is 
>>>> single page mode. 
>>>>
>>>> I've been able to get a leftbar and topbar started and starting to be 
>>>> populated (far from done, but mostly know how to do the rest). I also 
>>>> figured out the sticky-titles and z-index to layer things okay. I am stuck 
>>>> on spacing (as I typically am) as I don't have a web/css background or 
>>>> know 
>>>> all of the "hidden classes". If there's a good resource/guide for me to 
>>>> self-teach, even better! 
>>>>
>>>> In the "before" picture, I have 5 red boxes I'm trying to reduce to get 
>>>> me to the "after" picture. 
>>>> A: I already have "story top" set to 0px, there's just extra padding 
>>>> above the title line
>>>> B: I can adjust this with "story left", so I don't really need help on 
>>>> this one
>>>> C: I think similar to A, there's got to be some tc-? that I can change 
>>>> padding-left?
>>>> D: Same as C, but on the right
>>>> E: There's additional spacing to the right of the tiddler I can't get 
>>>> rid of.
>>>> Bonus: I think I'll keep it single-page mode, but if anyone knows how 
>>>> to adjust the space between tiddlers, that'd be helpful too as I might 
>>>> expand that way.
>>>>
>>>> Before (purposely put topbar in the back to illustrate better):
>>>> [image: before.png]
>>>>
>>>> After:
>>>> [image: after.png]
>>>>
>>>> *Thanks to the many contributors who've I've learned from to get this 
>>>> far with the CSS I have learned - especially Ton Gerner / J.D. / David 
>>>> Gifford / Eric / Soren / Jeremy and many others :)*
>>>>
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