To remove unnecessary tags from *tag-picker* that already exist, find two 
filters *nonSystemTagsFilter* & *systemTagsFilter *in 
$:/core/macros/tag-picker and add this to them at the end: 
*-[all[current]tags[]]*
суббота, 10 июля 2021 г. в 01:49:47 UTC+3, TW Tones: 

> Miket,
>
> Good questions we should collect answers to, the fact is Tags are such a 
> useful concept that we can "run away with them" and overuse them. These 
> questions of yours indicate you seem to be in  a common phase we all pass 
> through with tiddlywiki.
>
> However it exposes something us "seasoned" tiddlywiki enthusiasts learn. 
> An *over reliance* on tags causes something we sometimes refer to as "tag 
> pollution" or "tag saturation". Fortunately there are plenty of strategies 
> we can adopt.
>
> Let me pass on a little from my experience of more than a decade with 
> tiddlywiki and three decades with Information technology.
>
>    - Personally I came across this tag pollution very early in my 
>    tiddlywiki journey, the result is I have a special approach now that 
> serves 
>    me well, my approach is to use as few tags as possible leaving the "tags 
>    space" as "empty as possible". I tend to reserve tags for system functions 
>    (behind the scenes eg system tags etc...)  or "ad hoc" use.
>    - I achieve this by "moving tags into fields" whereever possible. 
>       - An example would be rather than have a tag to indicate a task, I 
>       have a field called *object-type with a value of task* (and other 
>       values), to indicate a *status of a task* rather than a status tag 
> *have 
>       a status field*. 
>    - When moving from a tag to a field we get to craft the way they 
>    behave differently, for example in the aforementioned *object-type and 
>    status fields* we can ensure a given tiddler only has one value at a 
>    time, so we do not need to put the effort into removing a tag. Just change 
>    the field value.
>    - Of course like tags sometimes we want more than one value at a time 
>    on a specific tiddler, I use tags initially, they make this easy, however 
>    as you start to have too many tags, new tags simply "pollute the tag space 
>    further".
>    - I may not want to change what plugins and other tools use tags for 
>       but I can control what I do with ones I create.
>       - Using the listops, list and other operators we can manage fields 
>       that contain multiple values.
>          - I tend to avoid spaces in the names of such values so space 
>          delimited is sufficient but you can make use of the [[title with 
> spaces]] 
>          methods and look at enlist and other operators.
>       - The alt-tags (gen tags) plugin allows you to make use of 
>       multiple-tags fields if you want.
>    - The trick is tags are a form of generic indicators, you can quickly 
>    use to achieve an outcome, but with experience you discover on moving them 
>    into a field that there are different organisational methods you can 
> easily 
>    enforce when using a field. For example you can ensure a tiddler belongs 
>    only to one category or one or more subjects.
>    - Fields can 
>    - Exist but contain nothing see [has[fieldname]] (field exists and has 
>       value) and [[has:field[fieldname]]  (field exists with or without a 
> value)
>          - Thus the existence of a field can itself be a condition or 
>          switch
>       - Contain wiki text or transclusions
>       - be managed with common suffixes or prefixes eg; anything-link  
>       else-link 
>    
> Finally;
>
>    - In coming versions the limitations of field naming are to be removed 
>    and we expect a lot of innovation ultimately occurring around this.
>    - Eventually one becomes aware of the subtle qualities of different 
>    ways to define either a tag or field. So lets say I decided to give many 
>    tiddlers a "domain" eg work/personal/health/family I may decide a given 
>    tiddler should only belong to one domain, then I would use a field with a 
>    single value.
>
> Regards
> Tones
> On Saturday, 10 July 2021 at 07:10:15 UTC+10 miket...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Now the usual view is very inconvenient when you have a lot of tags and 
>> need to scroll and scroll down the page. Plus, the selected tags are still 
>> on the list and continue to distract.
>>
>> This raises two questions?
>>
>> 1. How can I make the selection of tags more compact so that I don't have 
>> to scroll down the page?
>>
>> 2. And how to mark tags that are already assigned. Ideally remove from 
>> the list, but it's probably difficult. Maybe you can at least change the 
>> color to a less noticeable?
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Nice option with checkboxes here
>> https://i.imgur.com/gxJm0Tw.jpg
>> http://zemox.tiddlyspot.com/
>>
>> But I didn't understand how he did it, I installed his plugins and 
>> nothing changed.
>
>

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