Um, there was no disagreement in this thread with Tones. Tones' initial post was about getting pretty links when the URL encoding are ugly. I think that's great. *(Already a usual habit of mine, just grabbing them links from the "Open" sidebar tab instead.)*
I'm just trying to understand The Islander's subsequent post. And now your post as well. Where Tones is suggesting a nice way to provide links (kind of abstracting the URL encoding), are you both suggesting that it would be better to instead change URL encoding so they don't have things like "#" and "%20" in them ? On Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 10:04:44 AM UTC-3 Soren Bjornstad wrote: > I agree with Tones, URLs should be human-readable when possible...if > they're not, they're ugly. That means they consist of actual words, not > internal IDs and random strings of characters, when possible, and you can > tell what each component in the path represents. A bunch of URL-encoded > nonsense with %20 and so on is only human-readable if you know a lot about > text encoding, and even then it's going to slow you down. There was a time > in maybe the early aughts when most URLs were an unreadable mess, post > titles used their ID numbers in the database, there were usually giant > strings of query parameters after ?, etc. Then people got wise and started > prioritizing URLs that people can understand and type again (maybe partly > because search engines started taking that into account for ranking > purposes). > > But I think we're mixing up two concerns in this thread, the link text and > the actual URL. Raw URLs are uglier than text explaining where they go in > most cases, but that's a different question from the URL itself. In Tones' > example, the actual URL is the same in both links (though I'll note my > browser does convert the %20's to actual spaces on mouseover). > > On Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 1:15:19 AM UTC-5 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote: > >> *"Although the link text looks nice, hover over it and look at the URL. >> Yuck!"* >> >> Thanks, but I still don't understand where The Islander was going with >> that. >> >> A URL is a URL. Not quite sure how it could be made prettier, or why it >> would matter when the link is pretty. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sunday, August 8, 2021 at 2:50:41 AM UTC-3 TW Tones wrote: >> >>> Charlie; >>> >>> Use the permalink button you get >>> https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Sort%20Filter%20Run%20Prefix thats >>> Yuk in my view >>> Now control Panel, settings > tiddlywiki > Display tiddler titles as >>> links >>> >>> Now open the tiddler and highlight the title and copy, then past here Sort >>> Filter Run Prefix >>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/prerelease/#Sort%20Filter%20Run%20Prefix> >>> Thats not yuck >>> >>> I think you may see it aint the beholder, its universal. Especially if >>> you want to see the yuck one just mouse over. >>> >>> Regards >>> Tones >>> >>> >>> On Sunday, 8 August 2021 at 03:57:06 UTC+10 cj.v...@gmail.com wrote: >>> >>>> Yuck how? What's a non-yuck URL? >>>> >>>> Understanding, of course, that yuck is in the eye of the beholder, and >>>> that URL's are first about being successful at getting to something on the >>>> web. >>>> >>>> I ask because of the potential for me to gain a new insight into how >>>> different people see things. >>>> >>>> On Friday, August 6, 2021 at 12:42:44 AM UTC-3 The Islander wrote: >>>> >>>>> Although the link text looks nice, hover over it and look at the URL. >>>>> Yuck! >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, August 4, 2021 at 6:12:40 PM UTC-7 TW Tones wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Folks, >>>>>> >>>>>> I just stumbled upon something helpful. You may know how to copy a >>>>>> permalink to a tiddler, this results in URL, and using the to clipboard >>>>>> option is help full. the only problem is the result is an ugly URL with >>>>>> encoding. >>>>>> >>>>>> I discovered today however if you have Control Panel > Settings > >>>>>> Tiddler >>>>>> Titles >>>>>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fui%2FControlPanel%2FSettings%2FTitleLinks> >>>>>> set >>>>>> to Display tiddler titles as links, there is a a better choice. Or where >>>>>> every you see a link in a tiddler eg Learning >>>>>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#Learning> [[Learning | >>>>>> https://tiddlywiki.com/#Learning]] copt that with you mouse. >>>>>> >>>>>> If the titles are displayed as links highlight and copy the title >>>>>> with your mouse. The result if pasted is well formatted link eg; >>>>>> Navigation >>>>>> History >>>>>> <https://tiddlywiki.com/#%24%3A%2Fcore%2Fui%2FControlPanel%2FSettings%2FNavigationHistory>. >>>>>> >>>>>> It is not helpful pasting into tiddlywiki, I will raise an issue on >>>>>> this. >>>>>> But it is helpful pasting links into email and forum posts. As I have >>>>>> done >>>>>> here. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Tones >>>>>> >>>>> -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TiddlyWiki" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tiddlywiki+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/tiddlywiki/a87592ac-6920-448d-8ceb-d69e3d051b1cn%40googlegroups.com.
